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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valiant" data-source="post: 3790256" data-attributes="member: 54792">I think you may be confusing 2 issues. OSRIC itself, "the document" owned by Papers and Paychecks "may" be illegal.  If you were going to print OSRIC the book (or portions of it) and sell it, yes this might be a risk for you.  Lucky for you, thats P&Ps problem not yours.  (Thanks English law). Now that has nothing to do with the second issue, selling OSRIC modules. All one has to do is write a generic module and slap OSRIC on the cover and your done. Just follow the OGL 100% and your golden.  For instance, if you were to write a description of a room in your dungeon, and within that description write:  12 ORCs in chain armor armed with a mix of swords, HPs 4 each, AC 4, you've done nothing wrong (all you did is list HPs and AC). And you've supplied all the information (rules wise) the AD&D/OSRIC GM needs to run that encounter.  If you were really brave you might even include a page number referal to the OSRIC book!  Next room: Pit trap 3 feet in from door, with poisoned spikes save vs. petrification or take 2-12, second save vs. poison or die.  Once again, you tell the DM all he needs to run the save.  Nothing controversal here at all.  If the new DM (coming from 3E say) doesn't understand these notions he simply downloads OSRIC and reads it.Look everyone, "OSRIC Compatable" slapped on the cover is simply a notice to all the world "AD&D 1E compatable".That alone is not a violation of the law.  What is inside might be, and that depends what you put in there.  Infact, taking a look at EXPR's "Pods" right here in front of me, I see ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WOTC would have a problem with.   They may not like OSRIC on the cover, but within the document I see nothing remotely questionable.  Take a look for yourself. Now, if Joe B. copied the OSRIC descending tables in his document, that I could see being a risk.  If Joe B. said in his document what level limits of half elves were for certain classes, yes that might be a risk.  But simply listing an AC and level is in no way shape or form a violation of anything.     This industry wide caution, is valid if you were planning on printing the OSRIC book.  But there is NOTHING stopping anyone from putting on the cover of modules OSRIC compatable (just so people know your market is AD&Ders, and that zero conversion is required) and keeping your information 100% OGL compliant.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Personally, I think this sort of "advice" and public airing of "I'd hire a lawyer" and "I wouldn't touch this with a yada yada foot pole" relates more to scare tactics, these PROFESSIONAL companies don't want ANY competition from guys like you and me who might solo publish modules via PDF or LULU.  They have a small enough pie they have to share already.  Plus, if the public puts out excellent "for profit" modules well edited and proofed with really original ideas and creative encounters and 100% AD&D compatable to boot, its going to put the preasure on them to actually do some work and increase their quality.  In short, if you have any questions at all about the legality of an OSRIC module you might write, send a copy to WOTC and have them show you were they see any legal problems (they won't, trust me).  Then you have the "green light" sell away.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />PS: ORCUS When I read: " I, for one, would never touch it with a ten foot pole. Or in old school speak, a 10' pole. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But I understand the attraction." I found this in bad form.  It sounds like your giving scare tactic advice and then covering it up with a smiley face and use "I" as cover.  Feels like a hit to the D20s!  Thats not the best  way to build good relations with your customer base (who for the most part support OSRIC).  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>

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