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<blockquote data-quote="Valiant" data-source="post: 3793617" data-attributes="member: 54792"><p>ORCUS: " If it did, you guys wouldnt be here tryijng to drag it into the limelight with these otherwise useless and highly repetitive discussions just to say OSRIC OSRIC OSRIC over and over again."</p><p></p><p>First point, I am the only person in this thread being repetitive about OSRIC, there is no "you guys", only me. And I am not doing it to increase public awareness. Infact, I think if anything, it probably is annoying (thus hurts OSRIC). However, I was trying to get an answer to a simple question. If being obnoxious is what it took to get a clear answer from an established publisher, so be it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p> (Highlights are mine)</p><p></p><p>Thanks ORCUS, what I highlighted is the information I was after. I think you have presented an answer that is as "crystal clear" as I'm going to be able to get from anyone in the industry. I don't share your opinion of an increase of legal risk by putting "OSRIC COMPATABLE" on the cover of an otherwise OGL module (and I would be interested in seeing the case law that supports this "increase in legal risk" opinion) but I understand you do not want to get into that, which is fine). It just seems like a bold claim to throw out their, considering there have been several modules sold using "OSRIC COMPATABLE" on them, and their are several in the works (EXPR I believe has a few planned for release relatively soon). </p><p></p><p></p><p>As for your accusation that I am "baiting you" and that I am trying to increase recognition of OSRIC on this board, I deny both. I simply wanted to get a publisher to explain their position more clearly (particularly the difference between printing OSRIC the RULE BOOK and OSRIC COMPATABLE modules, in terms of legal risk). You have done that (to a limited degree) and I appreciate it. As for increasing the recognition of OSRIC, I think everyone at ENworld already knows about it. If I wanted to spread the word I would do it at other boards, not here. </p><p></p><p>The only reason I'm harping on OSRIC is because it seems to be the system singled out as "untouchable" by several publishers (including for example TLG on their web site forum). For such a strong "old school" industry reaction I had hoped to find some legal rather then ethical reasons (ex. case law) which so far I have seen none. </p><p></p><p>As for 1E style modules written for 4E, I think thats great. However, I don't think that will increase the number of people playing 1E, I think it will increase the number of people playing 4E, so I see it as a net "bust". When I posted the initial question I was referring to people actually using the rules system (the PH and DMG for AD&D 1st edition) not just playing 1E style modules with a different system (such as 3E, 4E C&C etc.). <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>However, I do hope you persue publishing some 1E compatable modules (under 1st Edition or what ever) and I will very likely buy them (assuming they don't get bad reviews).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Valiant, post: 3793617, member: 54792"] ORCUS: " If it did, you guys wouldnt be here tryijng to drag it into the limelight with these otherwise useless and highly repetitive discussions just to say OSRIC OSRIC OSRIC over and over again." First point, I am the only person in this thread being repetitive about OSRIC, there is no "you guys", only me. And I am not doing it to increase public awareness. Infact, I think if anything, it probably is annoying (thus hurts OSRIC). However, I was trying to get an answer to a simple question. If being obnoxious is what it took to get a clear answer from an established publisher, so be it. ;) (Highlights are mine) Thanks ORCUS, what I highlighted is the information I was after. I think you have presented an answer that is as "crystal clear" as I'm going to be able to get from anyone in the industry. I don't share your opinion of an increase of legal risk by putting "OSRIC COMPATABLE" on the cover of an otherwise OGL module (and I would be interested in seeing the case law that supports this "increase in legal risk" opinion) but I understand you do not want to get into that, which is fine). It just seems like a bold claim to throw out their, considering there have been several modules sold using "OSRIC COMPATABLE" on them, and their are several in the works (EXPR I believe has a few planned for release relatively soon). As for your accusation that I am "baiting you" and that I am trying to increase recognition of OSRIC on this board, I deny both. I simply wanted to get a publisher to explain their position more clearly (particularly the difference between printing OSRIC the RULE BOOK and OSRIC COMPATABLE modules, in terms of legal risk). You have done that (to a limited degree) and I appreciate it. As for increasing the recognition of OSRIC, I think everyone at ENworld already knows about it. If I wanted to spread the word I would do it at other boards, not here. The only reason I'm harping on OSRIC is because it seems to be the system singled out as "untouchable" by several publishers (including for example TLG on their web site forum). For such a strong "old school" industry reaction I had hoped to find some legal rather then ethical reasons (ex. case law) which so far I have seen none. As for 1E style modules written for 4E, I think thats great. However, I don't think that will increase the number of people playing 1E, I think it will increase the number of people playing 4E, so I see it as a net "bust". When I posted the initial question I was referring to people actually using the rules system (the PH and DMG for AD&D 1st edition) not just playing 1E style modules with a different system (such as 3E, 4E C&C etc.). ;) However, I do hope you persue publishing some 1E compatable modules (under 1st Edition or what ever) and I will very likely buy them (assuming they don't get bad reviews). [/QUOTE]
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