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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 4885933" data-attributes="member: 51930">the 3e design team for Greyhawk pretty much *is* Paizo.&nbsp; It might be smart, but keep in mind that the 4e design team (as much as I'm a fan of theirs) did 4eFR.&nbsp; It didn't fly, although I think the Abeir side of things is pretty cool.&nbsp; I haven't personally checked out the Eberron book, so I can't comment on that one.The point is that, unless they do a bang up job, they won't necessarily get it &quot;right&quot;.&nbsp; Moreover, the crew famous for the more recent Greyhawk material, is Paizo.&nbsp; Their fans, it could be argued, are the fans of Pathfinder.&nbsp; Their material is what has been attracting people to the game since the original modules.&nbsp; I think it'd be like trying to get hardcore OD&amp;D players/grognards, to come to a 4e game.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, but Grazzt, Iggwilv, Kyuss... the number of Greyhawk NPCs who are iconic POL characters now, is really up there.&nbsp; I don't think they have that many left that they could say &quot;well yeah, we have a totally different world here&quot;.&nbsp; Maybe some named NPCs like Mordenkainen, and others who are entirely on the world.&nbsp; It would set the tone for the sheer size of the multiverse.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not against Greyhawk, and I can see the potential... I just don't know.&nbsp; Maybe new, maybe that double-volume + module that's been talked about.&nbsp; I remember asking some hardcore RPGA players what Greyhawk was all about, as 3e basically only published FR and Eberron books.&nbsp; They said everything that was put out was for Greyhawk, as it was the default setting.&nbsp; I didn't have a gazetter, but everything in general &quot;should be assumed to be Greyhawk&quot;.&nbsp; Lords of Madness, Libris Mortis, Dragonomicon, MM 1-5, etc.&nbsp; All of it is Greyhawk.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To me that sounds like POL, but I've asked on the boards and gotten the reply that there is a concrete setting out there... somewhere.&nbsp; &quot;and it's fantastic, I tells ye&quot; (raspy voice through a grey beard).&nbsp;&nbsp; Other than some LG gazeteer and some assorted OD&amp;D books, however, there isn't much to point to, and not many novels.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 4885933, member: 51930"] the 3e design team for Greyhawk pretty much *is* Paizo. It might be smart, but keep in mind that the 4e design team (as much as I'm a fan of theirs) did 4eFR. It didn't fly, although I think the Abeir side of things is pretty cool. I haven't personally checked out the Eberron book, so I can't comment on that one. The point is that, unless they do a bang up job, they won't necessarily get it "right". Moreover, the crew famous for the more recent Greyhawk material, is Paizo. Their fans, it could be argued, are the fans of Pathfinder. Their material is what has been attracting people to the game since the original modules. I think it'd be like trying to get hardcore OD&D players/grognards, to come to a 4e game. Yes, but Grazzt, Iggwilv, Kyuss... the number of Greyhawk NPCs who are iconic POL characters now, is really up there. I don't think they have that many left that they could say "well yeah, we have a totally different world here". Maybe some named NPCs like Mordenkainen, and others who are entirely on the world. It would set the tone for the sheer size of the multiverse. I'm not against Greyhawk, and I can see the potential... I just don't know. Maybe new, maybe that double-volume + module that's been talked about. I remember asking some hardcore RPGA players what Greyhawk was all about, as 3e basically only published FR and Eberron books. They said everything that was put out was for Greyhawk, as it was the default setting. I didn't have a gazetter, but everything in general "should be assumed to be Greyhawk". Lords of Madness, Libris Mortis, Dragonomicon, MM 1-5, etc. All of it is Greyhawk. To me that sounds like POL, but I've asked on the boards and gotten the reply that there is a concrete setting out there... somewhere. "and it's fantastic, I tells ye" (raspy voice through a grey beard). Other than some LG gazeteer and some assorted OD&D books, however, there isn't much to point to, and not many novels. [/QUOTE]

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