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<blockquote data-quote="Milambus" data-source="post: 4541732" data-attributes="member: 74238"><p>Ok, lets pick out the key parts of the concept:</p><p>- Nobleman</p><p>- Church of Kelemvor</p><p>- Trained as a Wizard</p><p>- Outlawed Heretical Cult of ancester worshipers</p><p>- Commune with the dead</p><p>- Animating dead, but only rarely</p><p></p><p>I left necromancer off this list because I do not consider it a concept so much as it was an old way to fulfill a concept. </p><p></p><p>So lets look at ways to accomplish these concepts inside of 4e.</p><p></p><p><strong>Nobleman</strong></p><p>This can be pure fluff, no mechanics are really needed. </p><p></p><p><strong>Church of Kelemvor</strong></p><p>This can also be fluff. However, if you want to make this a key part of the character I would consider a multi-class in Cleric or Paladin. As a cleric you get to heal once per day. The paladin gets to divine challenge once per encounter. Neither of those really seem to be inline with the character however.</p><p></p><p><strong>Trained as a Wizard</strong></p><p>This one is easy, make him a wizard. Alternatively, many wizards in Forgotten Realms became warlocks after the Spellplague. </p><p></p><p><strong>Outlawed Heretical Cult of ancester worshipers</strong></p><p>This could be fluff. Or this could be a Warlock. </p><p></p><p><strong>Commune with the dead</strong></p><p>This would be done via a Ritual now, which any class can get. Wizards and Clerics get ritual caster for free. Speaking with the dead rituals would be keyed off of religion, which both wizards and clerics get as class skills. </p><p></p><p><strong>Animating dead, but only rarely</strong></p><p>As has been suggested, you can simply reflavor many powers to be raising of the dead. Daily powers would be good candidates to hold the rarity. Flaming Sphere could be a flaming corpse... Sleep could be unsettled spirits slowing down your enemies... freezing cloud the same...</p><p></p><p>My suggestion would be a Wizard with Warlock multi-class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Milambus, post: 4541732, member: 74238"] Ok, lets pick out the key parts of the concept: - Nobleman - Church of Kelemvor - Trained as a Wizard - Outlawed Heretical Cult of ancester worshipers - Commune with the dead - Animating dead, but only rarely I left necromancer off this list because I do not consider it a concept so much as it was an old way to fulfill a concept. So lets look at ways to accomplish these concepts inside of 4e. [B]Nobleman[/B] This can be pure fluff, no mechanics are really needed. [B]Church of Kelemvor[/B] This can also be fluff. However, if you want to make this a key part of the character I would consider a multi-class in Cleric or Paladin. As a cleric you get to heal once per day. The paladin gets to divine challenge once per encounter. Neither of those really seem to be inline with the character however. [B]Trained as a Wizard[/B] This one is easy, make him a wizard. Alternatively, many wizards in Forgotten Realms became warlocks after the Spellplague. [B]Outlawed Heretical Cult of ancester worshipers[/B] This could be fluff. Or this could be a Warlock. [B]Commune with the dead[/B] This would be done via a Ritual now, which any class can get. Wizards and Clerics get ritual caster for free. Speaking with the dead rituals would be keyed off of religion, which both wizards and clerics get as class skills. [B]Animating dead, but only rarely[/B] As has been suggested, you can simply reflavor many powers to be raising of the dead. Daily powers would be good candidates to hold the rarity. Flaming Sphere could be a flaming corpse... Sleep could be unsettled spirits slowing down your enemies... freezing cloud the same... My suggestion would be a Wizard with Warlock multi-class. [/QUOTE]
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