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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4335048" data-attributes="member: 58197">This.&nbsp; 4E characters are stronger in the first couple levels, but 3E characters overtake them rapidly.&nbsp; If I were going to try to estimate the &quot;effective level&quot; of a 4E character in a 3E world, I'd use a formula more or less like this:3E &quot;effective level&quot; = (4E level + 7) / 2Or, going the other way:4E level = (3E &quot;effective level&quot; x 2) - 7This is based on a) the assumption that a 4E character at level 1 is about as powerful as a 3E character at level 4, and b) the fact that character power in 3E roughly doubles every two levels, but in 4E doubles every four levels.So, if your 3E party is 12th level, your 4E cleric should be about 17th level.&nbsp; This still doesn't address all the other weirdness - can you use 3E magic items, or are you limited to 4E gear?&nbsp; What happens when you allow a 3E character to use a healing surge, which will happen a lot as a cleric?&nbsp; Do all 3E monsters use straight-up saving throws against your powers, or are some of them considered &quot;elite&quot; or &quot;solo&quot; monsters that get +2 or +5?&nbsp; But it's a start.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 4335048, member: 58197"] This. 4E characters are stronger in the first couple levels, but 3E characters overtake them rapidly. If I were going to try to estimate the "effective level" of a 4E character in a 3E world, I'd use a formula more or less like this: 3E "effective level" = (4E level + 7) / 2 Or, going the other way: 4E level = (3E "effective level" x 2) - 7 This is based on a) the assumption that a 4E character at level 1 is about as powerful as a 3E character at level 4, and b) the fact that character power in 3E roughly doubles every two levels, but in 4E doubles every four levels. So, if your 3E party is 12th level, your 4E cleric should be about 17th level. This still doesn't address all the other weirdness - can you use 3E magic items, or are you limited to 4E gear? What happens when you allow a 3E character to use a healing surge, which will happen a lot as a cleric? Do all 3E monsters use straight-up saving throws against your powers, or are some of them considered "elite" or "solo" monsters that get +2 or +5? But it's a start. [/QUOTE]

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