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<blockquote data-quote="Nai_Calus" data-source="post: 4945407" data-attributes="member: 79670">It's too bad that the Invoker I played was nothing like that at all mechancially. He didn't control. He barely contributed. Almost all of my attacks that weren't at-will I couldn't use until late in the second fight because they affected my allies, who were all bunched up with the monsters, and we were taking enough of a beating without me slamming them as well. He was easily the worst character I've played in an RPG, and that includes my 3.5 Bard that was my first character ever that I made with no clue what I was doing under a DM who ruled that Inspire Courage was a standard action to maintain. To be fair, he was a pregen with a spare freaking stat point in point buy, but the Swordmage I also played was similarily built by a two year old, except the S'mage was liquid awesome even with 'good god I would never take most of these powers who built this thing'. So yeah, I kind of get what the idea is, but since it was so godsforsakenly far from that idea, which is a lame idea to me anyway... Blech. Kill it. With fire. And ice. And everything else. Knock it unconscious and drown it. (Sadly the DM ruled that, since I was adjacent to some rocks when I went unconscious playing the Invoker, that I'd landed against them due to the favour of my god, so I didn't get to drown that one.)Bland flavor + class that doesn't seem to actually fit what bland flavor it has == Yuck, go away.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nai_Calus, post: 4945407, member: 79670"] It's too bad that the Invoker I played was nothing like that at all mechancially. He didn't control. He barely contributed. Almost all of my attacks that weren't at-will I couldn't use until late in the second fight because they affected my allies, who were all bunched up with the monsters, and we were taking enough of a beating without me slamming them as well. He was easily the worst character I've played in an RPG, and that includes my 3.5 Bard that was my first character ever that I made with no clue what I was doing under a DM who ruled that Inspire Courage was a standard action to maintain. To be fair, he was a pregen with a spare freaking stat point in point buy, but the Swordmage I also played was similarily built by a two year old, except the S'mage was liquid awesome even with 'good god I would never take most of these powers who built this thing'. So yeah, I kind of get what the idea is, but since it was so godsforsakenly far from that idea, which is a lame idea to me anyway... Blech. Kill it. With fire. And ice. And everything else. Knock it unconscious and drown it. (Sadly the DM ruled that, since I was adjacent to some rocks when I went unconscious playing the Invoker, that I'd landed against them due to the favour of my god, so I didn't get to drown that one.) Bland flavor + class that doesn't seem to actually fit what bland flavor it has == Yuck, go away. [/QUOTE]

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