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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Danzauker" data-source="post: 3717389" data-attributes="member: 1929">I second this, unless they don't give some more "flavour" to the class, which IMHO lacked in 3e.I was trying to work up a "Druid" based on the Binder class, for example, trying to tie up all Druid powers to appropriate "Vestiges".IMHO the Binder's flavour is perfect for the Druid as I envision him. Making "pacts" with outerworldly nature entities (it's enough not to call them Vestiges). Using a sort of magic that's definitly different from Clerics and arcane casters. Plus making them a little bit outcast since the "civilized world" doesn't understand them and their source of power, fills well the role.Anyway... I'm afraid much of the "experimental" work made in Tome of Magic and Magic of Incarnum will be lost in 4e. That would be a pity.</blockquote>