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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 3717975" data-attributes="member: 1288"><p>Okay, from the seminar I went to, I know the following to be true:</p><p></p><p>1) There are fewer classes in the 4E PHB than there were in the 3E one. (This is because many of them take up more space, what with the new maneuvers and abilities.)</p><p></p><p>2) Every class that was in the 3E PHB will appear <em>somewhere</em> in 4E. So those that don't make the PHB will be presented in later supplements.</p><p></p><p>3) Sorcerers and wizards both exist, but they're substantially more different from each other than they were in 3E.</p><p></p><p>Andy used barbarians in passing when discussing PrCs in 4E. While that doesn't <em>prove</em> that they're in the 4E PHB--he might've just been pulling a class name from the air for illustration purposes--it certainly heavily <em>implies</em> it.</p><p></p><p>Rich Baker mentioned that the ranger "killed the scout and took his stuff," so the ranger is in.</p><p></p><p>Between that and other sources I've seen online, I <em>know</em> the following classes are in the PHB (unless there are changes between now and publication, which is always possible):</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Fighter</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Rogue</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Ranger</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Paladin</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cleric</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Wizard</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Sorcerer</li> </ol><p></p><p>Between the seminar and other sources I've seen online, I've seen the following classes mentioned, so I <em>believe</em>, but am not 100% certain, they're in the PHB:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Barbarian</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Druid</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Warlord(?)</li> </ol><p></p><p>I would be surprised if there were any others, since we're already coming up on nearly as many as were in the 3E PHB. I expect the monk, and the bard, to be presented in future supplements (possibly PHB2).</p><p></p><p>I do <em>not</em> personally expect to see the warlock. After all, since all casters now have some at-will abilities, the warlock seems rather redundant. I expect to see that the sorcerer "killed him and took his stuff." But that's just a guess, and I've certainly been wrong before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 3717975, member: 1288"] Okay, from the seminar I went to, I know the following to be true: 1) There are fewer classes in the 4E PHB than there were in the 3E one. (This is because many of them take up more space, what with the new maneuvers and abilities.) 2) Every class that was in the 3E PHB will appear [i]somewhere[/i] in 4E. So those that don't make the PHB will be presented in later supplements. 3) Sorcerers and wizards both exist, but they're substantially more different from each other than they were in 3E. Andy used barbarians in passing when discussing PrCs in 4E. While that doesn't [i]prove[/i] that they're in the 4E PHB--he might've just been pulling a class name from the air for illustration purposes--it certainly heavily [i]implies[/i] it. Rich Baker mentioned that the ranger "killed the scout and took his stuff," so the ranger is in. Between that and other sources I've seen online, I [i]know[/i] the following classes are in the PHB (unless there are changes between now and publication, which is always possible): [list=1] [*]Fighter [*]Rogue [*]Ranger [*]Paladin [*]Cleric [*]Wizard [*]Sorcerer [/list] Between the seminar and other sources I've seen online, I've seen the following classes mentioned, so I [i]believe[/i], but am not 100% certain, they're in the PHB: [list=1] [*]Barbarian [*]Druid [*]Warlord(?) [/list] I would be surprised if there were any others, since we're already coming up on nearly as many as were in the 3E PHB. I expect the monk, and the bard, to be presented in future supplements (possibly PHB2). I do [i]not[/i] personally expect to see the warlock. After all, since all casters now have some at-will abilities, the warlock seems rather redundant. I expect to see that the sorcerer "killed him and took his stuff." But that's just a guess, and I've certainly been wrong before. [/QUOTE]
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