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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 4607114" data-attributes="member: 23716">Some good advice here.&nbsp; I would add that the &quot;4E&quot; way to do things is ask to yourself what kind of encounter do you want this to be and how challenging do you want it to be?&nbsp; If it is a skill challenge, sneak past the guards and get into position type of thing, I would make the guards minions with the caveat that as soon as the alarm is sounded, all or a certain percentage of the guards become non-minions and the PCs job gets very difficult very fast.&nbsp; With 4E's focus on the narrative end of things, I don't see anything wrong with having minion and non-minion stats for the guards on hand, depending on the situation.As for the captain, asking for a way to 'quickly' take out a solo in 4E before reinforcements arrive is like asking for water that isn't wet.&nbsp; Solo's, by design, are supposed to be knock down drag out fights that take a while.&nbsp; If the captain must remain a solo, then I see two options: an elaborate skill challenge/ DMG 42 set up that, if successful, allows a one-shot (or two-shot) assassination; or the PC's need to isolate the captain and dog-pile him without interruptions.&nbsp; I would recommend that latter.&nbsp; This could be as simple of getting him to retire to his quarters with his 'mistress', and the doors/windows barred from the inside.&nbsp; Meanwhile the PCs sneak into the fort (perhaps quietly dispatching a few minions on the way) and perform the passwall ritual to gain access to his quarters and take him in isolation.&nbsp; It might also be worthwhile to have the PCs bribe/insight a local bandit group to attack the fortress as a distraction, and, while the majority of his men are repelling the assault take on the captain with impunity.&nbsp; These methods are probably more 'realistic' as the heros in action movies always seem to have the noble band of freedom fighters/rebels/bandits attack BBE's stronghold and, while the mooks are fighting each other, square off against BBE.The above, of course, assume that the PCs are aware of the Captain and how much of a BBE he is, and that they cannot just go in with guns blazing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 4607114, member: 23716"] Some good advice here. I would add that the "4E" way to do things is ask to yourself what kind of encounter do you want this to be and how challenging do you want it to be? If it is a skill challenge, sneak past the guards and get into position type of thing, I would make the guards minions with the caveat that as soon as the alarm is sounded, all or a certain percentage of the guards become non-minions and the PCs job gets very difficult very fast. With 4E's focus on the narrative end of things, I don't see anything wrong with having minion and non-minion stats for the guards on hand, depending on the situation. As for the captain, asking for a way to 'quickly' take out a solo in 4E before reinforcements arrive is like asking for water that isn't wet. Solo's, by design, are supposed to be knock down drag out fights that take a while. If the captain must remain a solo, then I see two options: an elaborate skill challenge/ DMG 42 set up that, if successful, allows a one-shot (or two-shot) assassination; or the PC's need to isolate the captain and dog-pile him without interruptions. I would recommend that latter. This could be as simple of getting him to retire to his quarters with his 'mistress', and the doors/windows barred from the inside. Meanwhile the PCs sneak into the fort (perhaps quietly dispatching a few minions on the way) and perform the passwall ritual to gain access to his quarters and take him in isolation. It might also be worthwhile to have the PCs bribe/insight a local bandit group to attack the fortress as a distraction, and, while the majority of his men are repelling the assault take on the captain with impunity. These methods are probably more 'realistic' as the heros in action movies always seem to have the noble band of freedom fighters/rebels/bandits attack BBE's stronghold and, while the mooks are fighting each other, square off against BBE. The above, of course, assume that the PCs are aware of the Captain and how much of a BBE he is, and that they cannot just go in with guns blazing. [/QUOTE]

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