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<blockquote data-quote="Jack99" data-source="post: 4585130" data-attributes="member: 53135"><p>Lets see, an Ogre (level 8, xp 350)</p><p>4 to 5 orcs, one of which being an Eye of Gruumsh. Rest of them sound like Orc Raiders or Beserkers (150 or 175 xp per monster). The minions one must assume are the level 3 grunts, 38 a piece.</p><p></p><p>That's 350+5*38+200+3 or 4*150 or 175</p><p>Best case, it's a 350+190+200+450=1190 xp combat.</p><p>Worst case, it's a 1440 xp combat.</p><p></p><p>That's a level 5 or 6 encounter. Fairly challenging for a level 2 party. Bordering on deadly due to the ogre. </p><p></p><p>No wonder it took a while. Basically all monsters are higher level than the players. There are no easy targets, except the minions. Also, the orcs all come build in with healing, which prolongues the combat even more.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I would say that in this case, the length of the encounter owes more to poor design of the encounter than anything else. </p><p></p><p>Then again, he could have adjusted all these monsters, but from your description, it sure doesn't seem that way.</p><p></p><p>Cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack99, post: 4585130, member: 53135"] Lets see, an Ogre (level 8, xp 350) 4 to 5 orcs, one of which being an Eye of Gruumsh. Rest of them sound like Orc Raiders or Beserkers (150 or 175 xp per monster). The minions one must assume are the level 3 grunts, 38 a piece. That's 350+5*38+200+3 or 4*150 or 175 Best case, it's a 350+190+200+450=1190 xp combat. Worst case, it's a 1440 xp combat. That's a level 5 or 6 encounter. Fairly challenging for a level 2 party. Bordering on deadly due to the ogre. No wonder it took a while. Basically all monsters are higher level than the players. There are no easy targets, except the minions. Also, the orcs all come build in with healing, which prolongues the combat even more. Anyway, I would say that in this case, the length of the encounter owes more to poor design of the encounter than anything else. Then again, he could have adjusted all these monsters, but from your description, it sure doesn't seem that way. Cheers. [/QUOTE]
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