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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4586555" data-attributes="member: 11821">I can say for certain that I have had 2-hour combats in 4e, and they've left me vaguely unsettled.&nbsp; I even apologized to my players, but they responded, &quot;No, this was great!&quot; so I've stopped worrying so much.Fortunately, these long fights were pretty climactic - one was vs. Kalarel in KotS, and the other was for clearing out the Duergar Citadel in one big, massive battle after some smart strategy from the PCs.I don't get why everyone's getting so defensive.&nbsp; I love 4e, but its main fault (IMHO) is that combat can become a grind under some circumstances - low-level solo fights, mosters with too-high defenses, etc.&nbsp; There are many of ways to reduce the grind, and several other ways I as a DM can minimize it, but Shadeydm is hardly saying anything new or controversial here.Me, I'll concentrate on the rest of what he said - and say, &quot;I'm sorry it turned into a grindfest, but I'm glad you enjoyed it anyway!&quot;-O</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 4586555, member: 11821"] I can say for certain that I have had 2-hour combats in 4e, and they've left me vaguely unsettled. I even apologized to my players, but they responded, "No, this was great!" so I've stopped worrying so much. Fortunately, these long fights were pretty climactic - one was vs. Kalarel in KotS, and the other was for clearing out the Duergar Citadel in one big, massive battle after some smart strategy from the PCs. I don't get why everyone's getting so defensive. I love 4e, but its main fault (IMHO) is that combat can become a grind under some circumstances - low-level solo fights, mosters with too-high defenses, etc. There are many of ways to reduce the grind, and several other ways I as a DM can minimize it, but Shadeydm is hardly saying anything new or controversial here. Me, I'll concentrate on the rest of what he said - and say, "I'm sorry it turned into a grindfest, but I'm glad you enjoyed it anyway!" -O [/QUOTE]

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