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<blockquote data-quote="Harr" data-source="post: 4587499" data-attributes="member: 47190">Look. 4e combats sometimes grind. It's a fact. It's something that's been posted by people over and over since, like, July (I know cause I was one of those people *and* I saw other people doing it as well), it's been confirmed and posted about in other threads by me and by other people on these forums, and other people on the WotC forums, and people on the RPG.net forums.I write this because I see people here taking the attitude that if they can prove that THIS combat shouldn't have been a grind, or if they can prove that THIS combat was badly designed, then that PROVES that 4e combats don't grind. Sorry guys. For some people, people who are experienced, and people who have been playing 4e since it came out, and people who design good encounters, combat STILL grinds. Again, sorry, but that's that.You might let the people who have this problem try to come together with other people who also have this problem and find ways to solve it, you might help the people who have this problem try to find solutions for it, but seriously, the whole &quot;You actually don't really have this problem&quot; angle? It's played. Sooo played.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Harr, post: 4587499, member: 47190"] Look. 4e combats sometimes grind. It's a fact. It's something that's been posted by people over and over since, like, July (I know cause I was one of those people *and* I saw other people doing it as well), it's been confirmed and posted about in other threads by me and by other people on these forums, and other people on the WotC forums, and people on the RPG.net forums. I write this because I see people here taking the attitude that if they can prove that THIS combat shouldn't have been a grind, or if they can prove that THIS combat was badly designed, then that PROVES that 4e combats don't grind. Sorry guys. For some people, people who are experienced, and people who have been playing 4e since it came out, and people who design good encounters, combat STILL grinds. Again, sorry, but that's that. You might let the people who have this problem try to come together with other people who also have this problem and find ways to solve it, you might help the people who have this problem try to find solutions for it, but seriously, the whole "You actually don't really have this problem" angle? It's played. Sooo played. [/QUOTE]

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