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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 4294806" data-attributes="member: 22622">People use wow because mmos were what the game was modeling after and wow is the pinacle of gaming.  YOu see wow one way, I see mmo's as role playing less games where you hack and slash your way through from quest to quest.  So when i look at 4e, and you see the focus on combat and cool moves you can't help but see an mmo. No designer of the game has every said "they wanted it like a fighting arcade game".  Yes other mmos came before wow. Yes you can compare cool moves and actions to a loto f games.  But the marketing model and design of this game is to attract mmo players.  And I'd love to hear from anyhone who ever had a good role playing experience in an mmo.</blockquote>