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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 6109427" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey Balesir! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It was more a case of representing the diminishing returns of skill rather than getting in each others way. Although certainly the fact that they can't all fight the same enemy at once is relevant.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I decided that the best solution was to halve the flat Level modifier (from +12 to +6) rather than halve the effectiveness vis-a-vis experience points.</p><p></p><p>However this approach is probably skewed towards my epic bias.</p><p></p><p>In a 30 level system how many 1st-level characters should a Level 30 PC (effectively a demigod lets not forget) be able to take on.</p><p></p><p>In my system that would be an army of 100,000 1st-levellers.</p><p></p><p>1 - 7 - 13 - 19 - 25 - 31 (100,000 as a Level 31 standard rank enemy).</p><p></p><p>Technically, the Level 30 PC would be equal to a Level 35 elite monster (50/50 chance of death), meaning that an Army of 1 million troops (Level 37 standard converted to Level 28 Solo Monster) would be more suitable in terms of an exact match.</p><p></p><p>...so your Level 30 (demigod) PC should be fighting million strong horde's of low level troops.</p><p></p><p>Interesting parallels arise when you work out whether or not Driz'zt could actually defeat 1000 orcs...short answer, yes he can. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p>If we apply the XP laterally (without modification), then a Level 30 PC would be challenged by fighting groups somewhere between 100-1000 orcs.</p><p></p><p>That to me just isn't epic enough. It means that someone like Orcus (as officially written) would be 'worth' about the equivalent of 1000 orcs.</p><p></p><p>So I guess a bit of it is how each campaign visualizes EPIC tier gaming. Do you want your game to be epic or <span style="font-size: 26px"><strong>EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!</strong></span>...?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 6109427, member: 326"] Hey Balesir! :) It was more a case of representing the diminishing returns of skill rather than getting in each others way. Although certainly the fact that they can't all fight the same enemy at once is relevant. I decided that the best solution was to halve the flat Level modifier (from +12 to +6) rather than halve the effectiveness vis-a-vis experience points. However this approach is probably skewed towards my epic bias. In a 30 level system how many 1st-level characters should a Level 30 PC (effectively a demigod lets not forget) be able to take on. In my system that would be an army of 100,000 1st-levellers. 1 - 7 - 13 - 19 - 25 - 31 (100,000 as a Level 31 standard rank enemy). Technically, the Level 30 PC would be equal to a Level 35 elite monster (50/50 chance of death), meaning that an Army of 1 million troops (Level 37 standard converted to Level 28 Solo Monster) would be more suitable in terms of an exact match. ...so your Level 30 (demigod) PC should be fighting million strong horde's of low level troops. Interesting parallels arise when you work out whether or not Driz'zt could actually defeat 1000 orcs...short answer, yes he can. :cool: If we apply the XP laterally (without modification), then a Level 30 PC would be challenged by fighting groups somewhere between 100-1000 orcs. That to me just isn't epic enough. It means that someone like Orcus (as officially written) would be 'worth' about the equivalent of 1000 orcs. So I guess a bit of it is how each campaign visualizes EPIC tier gaming. Do you want your game to be epic or [SIZE=7][B]EPIC!!!!!!!!!!![/B][/SIZE]...? [/QUOTE]
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