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<blockquote data-quote="shadowoflameth" data-source="post: 4654145" data-attributes="member: 62336"><p>The key phrase there is "if they can get away with it." If you've been such a soft touch on resting whenever they want then the next time they do it at an inappropriate time, have more of the same kind of foe show up when they're sleeping.</p><p> </p><p>If this is too harsh, you could just have it rain filthy water that smells like a sewer, and leave them to get up, miserable and figure out why. </p><p> </p><p>As far as milestones, the DM has the leash there too. If the players aren't willing to go on because they spent theirs and haven't milestoned, it's a good time (occasionally) for an encounter that teaches them to make do without them. This is why encounter powers exist. You can't always count on getting your dailies back, but you have something special that you can try at least once in the fight.</p><p> </p><p>In an extreme example, suppose the party is ineffective against their foe for several rounds and the wizard is in trouble, the paladin having the most surges spends one to lay hands, then gets in trouble himself and does second wind on his next, then a third round as the party fights on in vain, he downs a potion and uses martyr's retribution and has now spent 5 surges. less than half of his total number. If the rest of the party is burning through them like this, and not winning, it may be time to tuck tail either becasue you're in over your heads, or the DM thinks having you fight an illusion of a ranger trained balor riding the terrasque is funny</p><p>sol</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shadowoflameth, post: 4654145, member: 62336"] The key phrase there is "if they can get away with it." If you've been such a soft touch on resting whenever they want then the next time they do it at an inappropriate time, have more of the same kind of foe show up when they're sleeping. If this is too harsh, you could just have it rain filthy water that smells like a sewer, and leave them to get up, miserable and figure out why. As far as milestones, the DM has the leash there too. If the players aren't willing to go on because they spent theirs and haven't milestoned, it's a good time (occasionally) for an encounter that teaches them to make do without them. This is why encounter powers exist. You can't always count on getting your dailies back, but you have something special that you can try at least once in the fight. In an extreme example, suppose the party is ineffective against their foe for several rounds and the wizard is in trouble, the paladin having the most surges spends one to lay hands, then gets in trouble himself and does second wind on his next, then a third round as the party fights on in vain, he downs a potion and uses martyr's retribution and has now spent 5 surges. less than half of his total number. If the rest of the party is burning through them like this, and not winning, it may be time to tuck tail either becasue you're in over your heads, or the DM thinks having you fight an illusion of a ranger trained balor riding the terrasque is funny sol [/QUOTE]
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