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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5482580" data-attributes="member: 463">Hi Francis.  It was my first time using the book (HotFL) and with crafting Larsenio Roguespierre I wanted to create somebody combat-effective, and avoid traps that would nerf my effectiveness.  I was successful - I've been kicking butt pretty nicely in Mark's Punjar Saga game so far, while still being fun to play with good CHA & interaction skills - but it took a fair bit of effort, and I still missed stuff that might have made me more effective; eg the Backstabber feat is legit for the campaign but it's in the PHB not HotFL so I missed it.It would be much faster making another Rogue, but making a different HotFL PC class from scratch would still take at least 90-100 minutes or so.  Nothing like what it would have taken to make a non-Essentials PC back in 2008 though; I tried to make a Wizard and gave up after a few hours.</blockquote>