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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4320691" data-attributes="member: 11821">Summary: I could care less.Apart from Expedition to the Demonweb Pits, and a mini-campaign that was part of my Arcana Evolved campaign, I've never run an extraplanar game.I love the 1e Manual of the Planes.  I think it's a brilliant piece of work, and keep it on my shelf with my 3e/4e stuff.  I never dug the Great Wheel thing; it was so artificial, in my mind.  Still, this book was a treasure trove of ideas.I hated Planescape's setup.  It basically neutered the outer planes.  I want the outer planes to be alien and dangerous, not someplace you just jump to.Now, with 4e, I can slide in anything I like from the Manual of the Planes and roll with it.  Simplicity itself!-O</blockquote>