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<blockquote data-quote="DandD" data-source="post: 4600754" data-attributes="member: 55168"><p>Aren't liches supposed to be elite anyway? So that means he should have some backup, like, how about some ghouls like they were mentioned before? Or a vampire servant with his own spawn minions coming to the aid of his master. </p><p>And of course, demons and devils that were bound by the lich some centuries ago and unleashed for the eventuality that a bunch of adventurers are coming to destroy your phylactery (just keep an eye on these traitorous demons and devlis). A war devil and a squad of devil legionnaires, that are acting as the bodyguard of said eladrin lich. Or a Glabezru demon, and a bunch of evistros. There's loads of reasons why the lich has companies. </p><p>In 4th edition, it's all about teams fighting each another. </p><p>Solo monsters are supposed to have multiple attacks, or several triggers to whatever attack effect the players can come up with, so that they counter several times per round, even if they're only alone. </p><p>Unless your lich is some kind of four-armed lich-monstrosity that blasts four times necro-lasers at his adversaries, he shouldn't be fighting against the team alone. </p><p>When the lich is starting to stun/push/debuffing the party, while they're in a bloody melee with somebody else, then your players are going to fear that guy. Even more if he retreats from battle, and engages them when he's fully restored again, while the group is still recuperating from their last battle. </p><p>Think of a murderous stalker in those horror movies. And now, let that guy have friends helping him. </p><p>The ultra-damage monster is not really scary, but rather annoying, if he drops the entire party in two rounds of combat, by somply using two 3rd edition meteor blasts (or worse) spells at the party.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DandD, post: 4600754, member: 55168"] Aren't liches supposed to be elite anyway? So that means he should have some backup, like, how about some ghouls like they were mentioned before? Or a vampire servant with his own spawn minions coming to the aid of his master. And of course, demons and devils that were bound by the lich some centuries ago and unleashed for the eventuality that a bunch of adventurers are coming to destroy your phylactery (just keep an eye on these traitorous demons and devlis). A war devil and a squad of devil legionnaires, that are acting as the bodyguard of said eladrin lich. Or a Glabezru demon, and a bunch of evistros. There's loads of reasons why the lich has companies. In 4th edition, it's all about teams fighting each another. Solo monsters are supposed to have multiple attacks, or several triggers to whatever attack effect the players can come up with, so that they counter several times per round, even if they're only alone. Unless your lich is some kind of four-armed lich-monstrosity that blasts four times necro-lasers at his adversaries, he shouldn't be fighting against the team alone. When the lich is starting to stun/push/debuffing the party, while they're in a bloody melee with somebody else, then your players are going to fear that guy. Even more if he retreats from battle, and engages them when he's fully restored again, while the group is still recuperating from their last battle. Think of a murderous stalker in those horror movies. And now, let that guy have friends helping him. The ultra-damage monster is not really scary, but rather annoying, if he drops the entire party in two rounds of combat, by somply using two 3rd edition meteor blasts (or worse) spells at the party. [/QUOTE]
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