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Message: <blockquote data-quote="davethegame" data-source="post: 4601256" data-attributes="member: 5389">Hey Mike! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I see what you mean about the monster's abilities no longer being the one big blast, but I also think there's a lot of room to use the other aspects of 4e encounters. First, the Lich (as an elite) probably isn't going to be alone, and his entire group should be what's fearsome. He can use the blast that stuns and command all the other monsters to go after the one stunned character. That sounds pretty scary to me.Plus, the encounter area could contain plenty of contingencies the Lich has set up, from magical traps to poison to all kinds of things that make confronting him a very risky proposition.There are other story ways to do it- for example, just last night, my players reached the end of the Well of Demons in Thunderspire Labyrinth. What could have been a normal encounter against a Gnoll Warlock and some demonic meatshields turned into a race to prevent the entire Mountain from being taken over by a demonic force. My players knew that they were just one roll away from losing when they finally took him down, and were sweating it the whole time. Again, it's not the monsters' powers that make them scary anymore... it's how they fit into the story.</blockquote>

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