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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 4893800" data-attributes="member: 51930">I like it.&nbsp; If you're a Cleric of Water, mind you, you also don't get the various protections other 2e elemental clerics got.&nbsp; Immunity to fire attacks?&nbsp; Ability to walk through walls?&nbsp; the Water version of that power was useless, mostly, but they don't care because of the situational benefit of making water so they don't die.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; However, how did they hold up in Combat compared to the other classes?I like this a lot, by the way.&nbsp; Well done.I think this is generally how they'll deal with the Defiler/Preserver split.&nbsp; It'll be like the Warlock pacts.That reminds me: are Warlocks going to be like Templars?&nbsp; Ie: you make a Pact with an Elemental Spirit, a Sorcerer King, or a Primal Spirit.Warlocks, Swordmages, Bards, Artificers, Sorcerers.&nbsp; These are non-primal classes that we're not sure about.&nbsp; They're going to likely have some aspect of Defiler/Preserver available to them, perhaps.&nbsp; Divine Classes:&nbsp; I think the feats for Elemental choices will be there.&nbsp; Keep in mind all the various classes, including Avenger and Paladin, will be drawing from these.Will Elemental be treated as a Divine power source?&nbsp; I don't know.&nbsp; Keep in mind that Swordmage works just as well for an elemental character, as does a Dragon Sorcerer.&nbsp; DS will be changed, but I think it'll be good.&nbsp; I think we might see Arcane characters with the option to be both Preservers *or* Defilers, depending on power choices.&nbsp; I think what's considered Arcane or Divine will be swapped around (ie: Swordmages of fire/water/earth rather than Defiler swordmages).&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Shadow is also going to be a power source, so maybe that will be where Defiler comes in?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 4893800, member: 51930"] I like it. If you're a Cleric of Water, mind you, you also don't get the various protections other 2e elemental clerics got. Immunity to fire attacks? Ability to walk through walls? the Water version of that power was useless, mostly, but they don't care because of the situational benefit of making water so they don't die. However, how did they hold up in Combat compared to the other classes? I like this a lot, by the way. Well done. I think this is generally how they'll deal with the Defiler/Preserver split. It'll be like the Warlock pacts. That reminds me: are Warlocks going to be like Templars? Ie: you make a Pact with an Elemental Spirit, a Sorcerer King, or a Primal Spirit. Warlocks, Swordmages, Bards, Artificers, Sorcerers. These are non-primal classes that we're not sure about. They're going to likely have some aspect of Defiler/Preserver available to them, perhaps. Divine Classes: I think the feats for Elemental choices will be there. Keep in mind all the various classes, including Avenger and Paladin, will be drawing from these. Will Elemental be treated as a Divine power source? I don't know. Keep in mind that Swordmage works just as well for an elemental character, as does a Dragon Sorcerer. DS will be changed, but I think it'll be good. I think we might see Arcane characters with the option to be both Preservers *or* Defilers, depending on power choices. I think what's considered Arcane or Divine will be swapped around (ie: Swordmages of fire/water/earth rather than Defiler swordmages). Shadow is also going to be a power source, so maybe that will be where Defiler comes in? [/QUOTE]

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