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<blockquote data-quote="el-remmen" data-source="post: 4216076" data-attributes="member: 11"><p>This actually reminds me of a post I was thinking of drafting, but have not had the time to write up, and was also concerned about the actual value of the post aside from me just saying "This is how I look at it."</p><p></p><p>Except that my opinion goes one step further, to me D&D does not emulate video games or heroic action movies or even novels of any kind. To me D&D IS D&D. . . And the arguments about how such and such rule or means of advancement or manifestation of a power or ability in D&D does not match what wizards (for example) do in books or movies or whatever never struck me as a very convincing argument - because I don't play D&D to reenact books or movies - I play D&D to play D&D, which is its own thing with its own tropes and approaches to things, some of which may be inspired by those sources, but I never felt they should have to emulate any of the them, or be changed to be more like them (esp. since for every example of fighting or magic being like X in one book or series, you could point to how it is like Y or Z in another). So yeah, Vancian magic (for example) never bothered me- it makes as much sense any other way to model a make-believe thing.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, in a way I hear ya. . . but like I said, I go one better and say, don't even get hung up on what books do, do what <em>you</em> do as suggested by the rules of the edition that works for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="el-remmen, post: 4216076, member: 11"] This actually reminds me of a post I was thinking of drafting, but have not had the time to write up, and was also concerned about the actual value of the post aside from me just saying "This is how I look at it." Except that my opinion goes one step further, to me D&D does not emulate video games or heroic action movies or even novels of any kind. To me D&D IS D&D. . . And the arguments about how such and such rule or means of advancement or manifestation of a power or ability in D&D does not match what wizards (for example) do in books or movies or whatever never struck me as a very convincing argument - because I don't play D&D to reenact books or movies - I play D&D to play D&D, which is its own thing with its own tropes and approaches to things, some of which may be inspired by those sources, but I never felt they should have to emulate any of the them, or be changed to be more like them (esp. since for every example of fighting or magic being like X in one book or series, you could point to how it is like Y or Z in another). So yeah, Vancian magic (for example) never bothered me- it makes as much sense any other way to model a make-believe thing. So yeah, in a way I hear ya. . . but like I said, I go one better and say, don't even get hung up on what books do, do what [I]you[/I] do as suggested by the rules of the edition that works for you. [/QUOTE]
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