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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voss" data-source="post: 4216333" data-attributes="member: 57593">Interesting. I see some of your points, but for myself, there are three things.  1- I think it hearkens back more to the stories of the oral tradition you started with.  Heroes aren't interesting as young, inexperienced punks. You don't get epic stories about how Hercules killed his first slightly large dog, or Beowulf's first fight with an equally inexperienced teenagers who's only footnote in history was that he was the first person Beowulf killed.2- Part of the literary tradition you're talking about is specifically a British cultural thing (though it bleeds over to other cultures in places).  The inexperienced, under-equipped prospective hero who muddles through despite the odds being stack against him, and then gets what he really wants, and goes home again.  Sorry, but I've had enough of useless hobbits, farm boys and plucky orphans.  I'm so very, very tired of them, and they're very, very played out, not to mention the lack of believability in such a story. In a dangerous world, such people would get gutted a mile from home.  Or have a competent dark lord just kill them in the first place!3- Goblins and kobolds and such are still a threat.  They aren't one-hit kills any more- a group of goblins is still a threat to an adventuring party.  But it doesn't come down to a single lucky (or unlucky) roll anymore.</blockquote>