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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sashi" data-source="post: 4217142" data-attributes="member: 61842">Not to degrade all the interesting talk that's gone on for 5 pages, but there's a very simple answer to his question.To which the answer is: Yes, unless there are rules for Level 0 in the DMG; and?If you want to start your players out weak, then start 'em weak. Many 3.x players started at 3rd level specifically because they wanted to avoid the Bildungsroman  effect (heck, the "you meet over beers in a tavern" intro to a campaign is a cliche specifically because many people want to skip the Bildungsroman  part and get right to being heroes and smashing things). These people didn't whine about how weak 1st level characters were, they just took steps to counteract it and went merrily along. If you want to go the other way and put in some houserules to re-introduce Bildungsroman, then nobody's going to stop you (except, possibly, your players).The question is, then, are you so arrogant to think that if people don't hew to your chosen style of game they're doing it wrong, and therefore the choice of the 4E designers to skip Bildungsroman is bad, or are you just whining about the lack of something you can easily bring back in?</blockquote>