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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4221829" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Oh, true, and nothing I said really disagrees with this. However, there's two different issues going on here.</p><p></p><p>Targeting the guy who'd bleeding on the ground to finish him off is a valid tactic, but, is not in any way written into the rules. And, while it might be valid, it's not more valid than using your attack to put a second enemy down too. Besides, it might be difficult to tell, in the heat of battle, if that guy that's fallen down is dead or just bleeding a lot. Unless you start having bad guys hitting corpses as well, I'd call shenanigans.</p><p></p><p>But, that doesn't really change my point. Written directly into the 3e rules, at almost any level, is the statistical possibility of killing a PC in one full attack. It might not be a high possibility, but, it's certainly there. A given creature can usually do 10xCR/round as a max. (give or take) Lots of PC's, including the front line fighter types, may have less than 10xlevel in hit points. Add in the chance of crits and it's not terribly difficult for the dice to declare you dead, despite the fact that you have done nothing wrong. Made no mistakes. The dice gods hate you today and you die.</p><p></p><p>To be fair though, we've wandered pretty far from the topic of the bildungsromans. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4221829, member: 22779"] Oh, true, and nothing I said really disagrees with this. However, there's two different issues going on here. Targeting the guy who'd bleeding on the ground to finish him off is a valid tactic, but, is not in any way written into the rules. And, while it might be valid, it's not more valid than using your attack to put a second enemy down too. Besides, it might be difficult to tell, in the heat of battle, if that guy that's fallen down is dead or just bleeding a lot. Unless you start having bad guys hitting corpses as well, I'd call shenanigans. But, that doesn't really change my point. Written directly into the 3e rules, at almost any level, is the statistical possibility of killing a PC in one full attack. It might not be a high possibility, but, it's certainly there. A given creature can usually do 10xCR/round as a max. (give or take) Lots of PC's, including the front line fighter types, may have less than 10xlevel in hit points. Add in the chance of crits and it's not terribly difficult for the dice to declare you dead, despite the fact that you have done nothing wrong. Made no mistakes. The dice gods hate you today and you die. To be fair though, we've wandered pretty far from the topic of the bildungsromans. :) [/QUOTE]
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