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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4229814" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>I know I'm coming in waaaaaaaaaaay late on this, but I feel I had to address this comment:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is only really true if you look at the stories in which there is but one singular hero.</p><p></p><p>If the focus of the story features companions of any kind, sudden death becomes a real possibility, and is often a catalyst within the story. Sometimes, a critical death MAKES the hero adopt the mantle of true heroism.</p><p></p><p>To take an example from comic books: Without the death of Uncle Ben, Peter Parker's path wouldn't have led so directly to becoming the hero Spider-Man- before that event, he was thinking of ways to exploit his transmutation in pure financial terms. He would have been the first incarnation of Booster Gold.</p><p></p><p>And in fantasy literature, Joel Rosenburg's <em>Guardian of the Flames</em> stories also feature early death and permanent disability of members of the core group of would-be heroes quite earaly on. In a way, those setbacks are their wake-up calls. And while Moorcockian heroes seldom die (for long, anyway), their allies and lovers often do, thus shaping the worldviews of thos characters.</p><p></p><p>In film, both the early demise of Charlie Sheen's character in <em>Young Guns</em> and James Brolin's death in front of Richard Benjamin in <em>Westworld</em> illustrate to both characters within the stories AND the audiences that death is possible and real.</p><p></p><p>So, while its not <em>essential</em>, the threat of sudden death is not unknown, and may even be crucial to certain elements.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4229814, member: 19675"] I know I'm coming in waaaaaaaaaaay late on this, but I feel I had to address this comment: This is only really true if you look at the stories in which there is but one singular hero. If the focus of the story features companions of any kind, sudden death becomes a real possibility, and is often a catalyst within the story. Sometimes, a critical death MAKES the hero adopt the mantle of true heroism. To take an example from comic books: Without the death of Uncle Ben, Peter Parker's path wouldn't have led so directly to becoming the hero Spider-Man- before that event, he was thinking of ways to exploit his transmutation in pure financial terms. He would have been the first incarnation of Booster Gold. And in fantasy literature, Joel Rosenburg's [i]Guardian of the Flames[/i] stories also feature early death and permanent disability of members of the core group of would-be heroes quite earaly on. In a way, those setbacks are their wake-up calls. And while Moorcockian heroes seldom die (for long, anyway), their allies and lovers often do, thus shaping the worldviews of thos characters. In film, both the early demise of Charlie Sheen's character in [i]Young Guns[/i] and James Brolin's death in front of Richard Benjamin in [i]Westworld[/i] illustrate to both characters within the stories AND the audiences that death is possible and real. So, while its not [i]essential[/i], the threat of sudden death is not unknown, and may even be crucial to certain elements. [/QUOTE]
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