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<blockquote data-quote="Dormain1" data-source="post: 4237529" data-attributes="member: 61912"><p>I have no problem halving the HP but it's the spells and exploits you need to cut back too</p><p></p><p>perhaps scale back at will to encounter and encounter to daily leaving racial powers as is</p><p></p><p>so a human gets one @will one encounter and one daily</p><p></p><p>and eladrin gets no @will but two encounter and one daily</p><p></p><p>I can understand some will not like to play such characters but some may</p><p></p><p>PrecociousApprentice sorry for calling you L33tist and I accept your apology without question, the points you and hong (you have said it a few times now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )have made are all correct the 4E level 1 encounter does seem to scale with a 3E level 1 encounters</p><p></p><p>i recently played a 4E level 3 party of 4 characters who managed to run through a level 3 a level 4 and a level 6 encounter with only short breaks between the level 6 was the only one to really put the fear of death into anyone, one PC got to -16 while most got to single digits with little or no surges left</p><p></p><p>It could just be that we are really efficient (we managed to get a bunch of minions to run into the forest after a cantrip <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />) but it was really only the early levels where we got scared, at later levels its just about how much stuff you could do and make sure you can make your save or die rolls which i was hoping 4E would fix</p><p></p><p>and im glad we are now cool (I understand your frustrations when it feels you are talking to a brick wall or "I can't hear you LALALALA")</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dormain1, post: 4237529, member: 61912"] I have no problem halving the HP but it's the spells and exploits you need to cut back too perhaps scale back at will to encounter and encounter to daily leaving racial powers as is so a human gets one @will one encounter and one daily and eladrin gets no @will but two encounter and one daily I can understand some will not like to play such characters but some may PrecociousApprentice sorry for calling you L33tist and I accept your apology without question, the points you and hong (you have said it a few times now ;) )have made are all correct the 4E level 1 encounter does seem to scale with a 3E level 1 encounters i recently played a 4E level 3 party of 4 characters who managed to run through a level 3 a level 4 and a level 6 encounter with only short breaks between the level 6 was the only one to really put the fear of death into anyone, one PC got to -16 while most got to single digits with little or no surges left It could just be that we are really efficient (we managed to get a bunch of minions to run into the forest after a cantrip :cool:) but it was really only the early levels where we got scared, at later levels its just about how much stuff you could do and make sure you can make your save or die rolls which i was hoping 4E would fix and im glad we are now cool (I understand your frustrations when it feels you are talking to a brick wall or "I can't hear you LALALALA") [/QUOTE]
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