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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4015349" data-attributes="member: 1054">Actually, I *don't* know this, since it's never been discussed in playtest, and in many projects of this nature, promised features are dropped or moved to later releases. Pretty much. Mechanically, everyone was a "0 level non combatant" with no means of modeling their actual skills or abilities. I pretty much avoided D&D from when I outgrew 1e to when 3e came out, precisely because it lacked any tools to model skills in the kind of depth I liked in games like Hero and GURPS. 3e brought me back to the D&D fold; 4e seems bound and determined to kick me away again.I believe I said "Skill POINTS".Precisely. A good *encounter*. Not a good *character*. If you don't see the difference, we're working on such different levels that I don't think meaningful communication is possible. Uhm...I *like* them? I like to be able to take a monster of middling level and make him more of a diplomat and less of a fighter by swapping some feats? I like to give different monsters  different strengths, such as giving some orcs with bows point-blank shot and some orcs with axes Weapon Focus?And I consider this a step backwards. My favorite systems are those which don't distinguish between PC and NPC mechanically -- GURPS, Hero, BESM, for example. D&D 3e was borderlineish, but was close enough to a unified mechanic that I liked it. 4e is moving in what I consider to be the wholly wrong direction.</blockquote>

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