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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 3736740" data-attributes="member: 94">This is a very good point, Grog.But in my opinion, the flaw here is in the assumptions made about CR in general. There is a huge problem with CR/EL as 3e presents it: it does not accurately model the power jumps from CR to CR. Moving from CR1 to CR2 is a huge relative increase in power; moving from CR10 to CR11 is a much smaller relative increase. Yet the CR/EL/XP system treats them as if they are equivalent jumps in power.16 orcs are actually much closer to 3rd level (using Chi/Rho for my guesstimate).</blockquote>