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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4700186" data-attributes="member: 32536">I also think the poll options are a bit too extreme. I don't really think that Devas and Kalashtar are identical, but I do think there is a lot of significant overlap. They have their differences, but they are still both races associated with good-aligned outsiders bound to human form in some way or another, inheriting memories of former versions of themselves in some manner. Devas and Kalashtar resemble each other far more than Kalashtar and Elan do, and they are more similar than Devas and Tieflings are, at the very least. In other words, they are far more similar to each other than they are to races that otherwise quite similar to one or the other.I guess, I don't really expect WotC to say that Devas and Kalashtar are the same, and I am not encouraging them to make them the same, but I wouldn't complain if they did. No matter what, with Devas in the game they need to do something to establish a clearer difference between the two races and make Kalashtar a bit more unique again if they want to put that race into 4E. Certainly, since WotC isn't going to bring back the power point mechanic, they won't use power points to distinguish &quot;innately psionic races&quot; (which is good since it was a terrible idea to make certain races innately good at certain categories of classes), so they need to do something other than rely on the &quot;psionic races are different&quot; idea.Kalashtar really need an even greater focus on the entire &quot;shared spirit&quot; idea, I think. The fact that Kalashtar have true supernatural bonds uniting their communities is the one significant thing that really makes them different from Devas, so that needs to be focused upon if Kalashtar are created as their own race.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 4700186, member: 32536"] I also think the poll options are a bit too extreme. I don't really think that Devas and Kalashtar are identical, but I do think there is a lot of significant overlap. They have their differences, but they are still both races associated with good-aligned outsiders bound to human form in some way or another, inheriting memories of former versions of themselves in some manner. Devas and Kalashtar resemble each other far more than Kalashtar and Elan do, and they are more similar than Devas and Tieflings are, at the very least. In other words, they are far more similar to each other than they are to races that otherwise quite similar to one or the other. I guess, I don't really expect WotC to say that Devas and Kalashtar are the same, and I am not encouraging them to make them the same, but I wouldn't complain if they did. No matter what, with Devas in the game they need to do something to establish a clearer difference between the two races and make Kalashtar a bit more unique again if they want to put that race into 4E. Certainly, since WotC isn't going to bring back the power point mechanic, they won't use power points to distinguish "innately psionic races" (which is good since it was a terrible idea to make certain races innately good at certain categories of classes), so they need to do something other than rely on the "psionic races are different" idea. Kalashtar really need an even greater focus on the entire "shared spirit" idea, I think. The fact that Kalashtar have true supernatural bonds uniting their communities is the one significant thing that really makes them different from Devas, so that needs to be focused upon if Kalashtar are created as their own race. [/QUOTE]

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