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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5384252" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>1) Char Ops will interpret anything designed to make optimization better. In this case, they're explicitly cheating.</p><p></p><p>2) The rule's pretty clear: It explicitly says 'when you choose a power' which is something that you simply don't get to do with encounter powers with the Warpriest. As I said... you can no more choose a cleric power than you can choose a sun warpriest power if you are a storm warpriest. Your choices are as much made for you as the at-wills are for a warlock.</p><p></p><p>As for whether it's the result of a feature:</p><p></p><p>The title of the ability to take your domain powers at level 1 is called 'Domain Features.' Moreover: At level 3, this is what happens:</p><p></p><p>'Benefit: You gain an encounter attack power associated with your domain. (storm, p 109, or sun, p 115).'</p><p></p><p>Notice it does not give you a choice. And, if it did give a choice, the encounter power -must be- associated with your domain. This is a specific case that would override the general rule saying you can take any power.</p><p></p><p>As there is only one power associated with your domain at levels 3, 7, 13, 17, 23, and 27, there's no cogent argument that the 'choose any power' rule would hold sway. You're not choosing a power, and the rule is therefore not satisfied, and you're specifically required to take the power associated with your domain, so even if it were, the specific case would override it.</p><p></p><p>On top of that, you're not even allowed to decide which powers you can swap. Your level 13 power MUST replace your level 1. You cannot decide to have it replace your level 3.</p><p></p><p>I don't understand how the argument that you -can- take powers outside your domain powers exists--it's a ruling based not on Rules as Written, but Rules as Ignored.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5384252, member: 71571"] 1) Char Ops will interpret anything designed to make optimization better. In this case, they're explicitly cheating. 2) The rule's pretty clear: It explicitly says 'when you choose a power' which is something that you simply don't get to do with encounter powers with the Warpriest. As I said... you can no more choose a cleric power than you can choose a sun warpriest power if you are a storm warpriest. Your choices are as much made for you as the at-wills are for a warlock. As for whether it's the result of a feature: The title of the ability to take your domain powers at level 1 is called 'Domain Features.' Moreover: At level 3, this is what happens: 'Benefit: You gain an encounter attack power associated with your domain. (storm, p 109, or sun, p 115).' Notice it does not give you a choice. And, if it did give a choice, the encounter power -must be- associated with your domain. This is a specific case that would override the general rule saying you can take any power. As there is only one power associated with your domain at levels 3, 7, 13, 17, 23, and 27, there's no cogent argument that the 'choose any power' rule would hold sway. You're not choosing a power, and the rule is therefore not satisfied, and you're specifically required to take the power associated with your domain, so even if it were, the specific case would override it. On top of that, you're not even allowed to decide which powers you can swap. Your level 13 power MUST replace your level 1. You cannot decide to have it replace your level 3. I don't understand how the argument that you -can- take powers outside your domain powers exists--it's a ruling based not on Rules as Written, but Rules as Ignored. [/QUOTE]
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