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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 5138532" data-attributes="member: 386">I don't know if that's going to help you get more immersed in the game world.I think lack of immersion happens because you don't need to concern yourself with the game world when it comes to action resolution.&nbsp; There's no difference between a stream of water (difficult terrain) and heavy underbrush (difficult terrain).If you make the details of the game world matter in action resolution - &quot;Hey, that gnome who's invisible, if he goes through the water I should see splashes, right?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;I am going to try to manoeuvre the bad guy so his footing is off in the underbrush, making it easier for me to trip him with a push.&quot;If those little details matter then players will be looking at them for advantages, thus thinking about the details of the game world, picturing their characters in the game world - immersion.The question is, how do you do that?&nbsp; Anyway, another thing to consider.If I were to use your system... I'd have a rule that says:&quot;The DM can waive the cost of exertion points if the attack uses features of the environment, the positioning of opponents, or any other details of the game world to aid in its success.&quot;(Maybe the exact reason for waiving the cost would be different based on the power: &quot;Spinning Sweep: if you can get under his guard and kick out his legs, you don't need to spend an exertion point.&quot;&nbsp; Don't define anything else, leave it game-world based.&nbsp; This means you can't Spinning Sweep oozes easily; with a creature like a hobgoblin, who fights in little phalanx, you'd have the same problem - at least not until you knock their shield away and are able to get under their guard.)Then you keep the number of exertion points low so that players are forced to look for these things.&nbsp; You'd probably want to make sure you add in specific things that are easily used for the first while until players get the hang of it.Hmm... that could work!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 5138532, member: 386"] I don't know if that's going to help you get more immersed in the game world. I think lack of immersion happens because you don't need to concern yourself with the game world when it comes to action resolution. There's no difference between a stream of water (difficult terrain) and heavy underbrush (difficult terrain). If you make the details of the game world matter in action resolution - "Hey, that gnome who's invisible, if he goes through the water I should see splashes, right?" "I am going to try to manoeuvre the bad guy so his footing is off in the underbrush, making it easier for me to trip him with a push." If those little details matter then players will be looking at them for advantages, thus thinking about the details of the game world, picturing their characters in the game world - immersion. The question is, how do you do that? Anyway, another thing to consider. If I were to use your system... I'd have a rule that says: "The DM can waive the cost of exertion points if the attack uses features of the environment, the positioning of opponents, or any other details of the game world to aid in its success." (Maybe the exact reason for waiving the cost would be different based on the power: "Spinning Sweep: if you can get under his guard and kick out his legs, you don't need to spend an exertion point." Don't define anything else, leave it game-world based. This means you can't Spinning Sweep oozes easily; with a creature like a hobgoblin, who fights in little phalanx, you'd have the same problem - at least not until you knock their shield away and are able to get under their guard.) Then you keep the number of exertion points low so that players are forced to look for these things. You'd probably want to make sure you add in specific things that are easily used for the first while until players get the hang of it. Hmm... that could work! [/QUOTE]

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