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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5457660" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Exactly. When Versatile Expertise was published it replaced Weapon Expertise and Implement Expertise (at least for some builds of characters). There are still people around that may not know about that feat. If they use the old feats, well, they will use up an extra feat slot. It isn't the end of the world. Is it some kind of perfect situation? No, but this kind of thing happens all the time in any fairly extensive game system. </p><p></p><p>There are some things WotC could do, and may do, that might be helpful. They have already done some of it by for instance making CB with a mode that only presents Essentials stuff for people that are playing with just those rules. They could put in a deprecation flag to hide obsolete feats too, which would be nice and would cover a lot more than just Essentials (Fey Charm was a good example). </p><p></p><p>In terms of confusion with people not being clear on whether they should buy Essentials or older stuff, or both, or maybe even confused by 3.x stuff that is on the FLGS's shelves still... That's an issue for the retailer to some extent. I think WotC has done as much as is humanly possible to label the Essentials stuff as "this is what you want to buy first if you want to get into D&D". Certainly the retailers at a game store should be able to provide guidance to customers at that level. In an ideal world only the latest and greatest stuff would be on the shelves, but in the real world this kind of issue always exists. </p><p></p><p>I'm sure if someone has some great idea about how to make things clearer for customers WotC is all ears. Let them know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5457660, member: 82106"] Exactly. When Versatile Expertise was published it replaced Weapon Expertise and Implement Expertise (at least for some builds of characters). There are still people around that may not know about that feat. If they use the old feats, well, they will use up an extra feat slot. It isn't the end of the world. Is it some kind of perfect situation? No, but this kind of thing happens all the time in any fairly extensive game system. There are some things WotC could do, and may do, that might be helpful. They have already done some of it by for instance making CB with a mode that only presents Essentials stuff for people that are playing with just those rules. They could put in a deprecation flag to hide obsolete feats too, which would be nice and would cover a lot more than just Essentials (Fey Charm was a good example). In terms of confusion with people not being clear on whether they should buy Essentials or older stuff, or both, or maybe even confused by 3.x stuff that is on the FLGS's shelves still... That's an issue for the retailer to some extent. I think WotC has done as much as is humanly possible to label the Essentials stuff as "this is what you want to buy first if you want to get into D&D". Certainly the retailers at a game store should be able to provide guidance to customers at that level. In an ideal world only the latest and greatest stuff would be on the shelves, but in the real world this kind of issue always exists. I'm sure if someone has some great idea about how to make things clearer for customers WotC is all ears. Let them know. [/QUOTE]
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