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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 4232156" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>(emphasis mine)</p><p>Strangely, I think it's what they're doing. </p><p></p><p>How many people complain on messageboards that the Realms are too "history-bloated" and that it's too tough to buy into the setting with all that has come before? How many people in various threads have expressed absolutely NO interest in Chessenta, Chult, The Golden Plains (or whatever the area southwest of Unther) and for that matter, Unther and Mulhorand? How many have expressed annoyance that there are too many high-level NPCs running around (whether justified or not)?</p><p></p><p>My answer to these is: I have seen A LOT of people, between here and the WotC forums, express just these sorts of complaints. Candlekeep and similar forums, not so much - the fans that are happy with it as it was didn't have much to complain about. As a result, I think it may have been a victim of "damning with faint praise." I can hazard a quess that, for all the hardcore fans outraged over the changes listed, they weren't making enough of a difference saleswise to keep things going exactly as they were. So, all those things complained about were changed. Notice their claim that they didn't harm Waterdeep, the Dales, etc. -- those lands most widely gamed in by the people who used the Realms!</p><p></p><p>Only time will tell whether it turned out to be a good thing. Heck, in a twist of irony, for al we know people upset with the changes may wind up buying the books just to read them and have more info to complain about, and thereby driving the reboot's success. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>As far as the Realms as it was, I'll always have my FRCS, and all my 2nd edition stuff to paint a game-worthy picture. At the least, I might get some interesting ideas out of the reboot, but as it is now, I have too much previous material and too many other peoiple DMing to really need to buy the August 2008 reboot, so it's not as big of a deal to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 4232156, member: 158"] (emphasis mine) Strangely, I think it's what they're doing. How many people complain on messageboards that the Realms are too "history-bloated" and that it's too tough to buy into the setting with all that has come before? How many people in various threads have expressed absolutely NO interest in Chessenta, Chult, The Golden Plains (or whatever the area southwest of Unther) and for that matter, Unther and Mulhorand? How many have expressed annoyance that there are too many high-level NPCs running around (whether justified or not)? My answer to these is: I have seen A LOT of people, between here and the WotC forums, express just these sorts of complaints. Candlekeep and similar forums, not so much - the fans that are happy with it as it was didn't have much to complain about. As a result, I think it may have been a victim of "damning with faint praise." I can hazard a quess that, for all the hardcore fans outraged over the changes listed, they weren't making enough of a difference saleswise to keep things going exactly as they were. So, all those things complained about were changed. Notice their claim that they didn't harm Waterdeep, the Dales, etc. -- those lands most widely gamed in by the people who used the Realms! Only time will tell whether it turned out to be a good thing. Heck, in a twist of irony, for al we know people upset with the changes may wind up buying the books just to read them and have more info to complain about, and thereby driving the reboot's success. ;) As far as the Realms as it was, I'll always have my FRCS, and all my 2nd edition stuff to paint a game-worthy picture. At the least, I might get some interesting ideas out of the reboot, but as it is now, I have too much previous material and too many other peoiple DMing to really need to buy the August 2008 reboot, so it's not as big of a deal to me. [/QUOTE]
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