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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kanegrundar" data-source="post: 1959171" data-attributes="member: 3913">Rasyr, I didn't mean to sound confrontational, so I meant no offense in my post.  You make some good points, but the whole reason that I feel 4E would be an unpopular move at this point is that 3/3.5 isn't like 2E was before.  2E was a much-maligned system, 3.5 isn't.  I'd say that most people are happy with 3E, while 2E was going through a lot of problems the year or so before 3E.  That's my opinion.  As for the NDA's, they aren't ironclad.  I'm sure if 4E was being playtested, someone would have let the cat out of the bag, even if just hinting at it.  Then again, maybe it is and they found enough people that aren't going to chance it by breaking their NDA's, but I would doubt it.Like you said, I guess we'll find out after GENCON next year!  I really go hope you're wrong, though.  I'm not of the frame of mind to get into another edition, and I prefer playing instead of converting material...that's what happened in the early days of 3E for me and I forsee it for 4E as well...Kane</blockquote>