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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4511578" data-attributes="member: 710">I haven't tried it, but I would bet Wulf Ratbanes method works good. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />EL and CR calculation is not described as badwrongfun. At worst, it's just unfun because of certain vagaries in calculating EL of groups, or because CRs are totally off. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />But I think fun or unfun or badwrongfun doesn't describe it. 3E CR/EL system was a good start, but 4E system works better. Ultimately, it's a refinement after 8 years of learning what worked and what didn't - and what would be desirable.And more went into in this then just the "XP Budget" for encounters. For example, to have 5 PCs vs 5 equal level monsters work, you need to take certain considerations into account - how tough are the monsters compared to the PCs? How can the PCs be challenged in such an encounter without having to rest again?</blockquote>