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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3969441" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Y'know, just for giggles, I'm going to go through the bibliography listed in the DMG and list the publication dates as well.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Anderson, Poul. THREE HEARTS AND THREE LIONS 1961 ; THE HIGH CRUSADE 1960; THE BROKEN SWORD 1954</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bellairs, John. THE FACE IN THE FROST 1969</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Brackett, Leigh. (SF writer who wrote Empire Strikes Back)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Brown, Fredric. (SF and Mystery Writer)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Burroughs, Edgar Rice. "Pellucidar" Series (mostly 20's and 30's with the latest in 1969); Mars Series (1912-1942); Venus Series (1930's with the latest in 1970) ((Conspicuously absent is mention of Tarzan))</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Carter, Lin. "World's End" Series 1974</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">de Camp, L. Sprague. LEST DARKNESS FALL 1939; FALLIBLE FIEND 1972; et. al.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">de Camp & Pratt. "Harold Shea" Series (1940-1960); CARNELLIAN CUBE 1948</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Derleth, August. (Lovecraftian Horror) 1920's-1970's</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dunsany, Lord. Credited as one of the first modern fantasy authors. 1900-</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Farmer, P. J. "The World of the Tiers" Series (1965-1993); et al. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fox, Gardner. "Kothar" Series 1969 "Kyrik" Series 1975; et al.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Howard, R. E. "Conan" Series 1932+</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lanier, Sterling. HIERO'S JOURNEY 1975</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Leiber, Fritz. "Fafhrd & Gray Mouser" Series; et al. 1940's-1970's</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lovecraft, H. P. (1919-1931)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Merritt, A. CREEP, SHADOW, CREEP; MOON POOL; DWELLERS IN THE MIRAGE; et al. (1917-1934)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Moorcock, Michael. STORMBRINGER 1965; STEALER OF SOULS 1963; "Hawkmoon" Series (esp. the first three books) (1960's)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Norton, Andre. (Primarily SF) 1930's to Present day</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Offutt, Andrew J., editor SWORDS AGAINST DARKNESS III. 1978</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pratt, Fletcher. BLUE STAR 1952; et al</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Saberhagen, Fred. CHANGELING EARTH 1973; et al</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">St. Clair, Margaret. THE SHADOW PEOPLE 1969; SIGN OF THE LABRYS 1963</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tolkien, J. R. R. THE HOBBIT; "Ring Trilogy" 1954</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Vance, Jack. THE EYES OF THE OVERWORLD 1966; THE DYING EARTH 1950; et al.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Weinbaum, Stanley. SF Author. Died 1934</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wellman, Manly Wade. SF and Weird author from 1929-1987</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Williamson, Jack. SF writer from the 1930's to present</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Zelazny, Roger. JACK OF SHADOWS 1971; "Amber" Series 1970's; et al.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Phew. That's the lot.</p><p></p><p>Facinating to look at this now. So many of these authors are very contemporary with the publication of OD&D and even AD&D 1e. Plus, a fair number of the authors aren't fantasy authors at all, but rather SF authors. Williamson for example is about as hard SF as they come. </p><p></p><p>I must remember to link to this whenever someone complains about warforged or other SF tropes in D&D. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3969441, member: 22779"] Y'know, just for giggles, I'm going to go through the bibliography listed in the DMG and list the publication dates as well. [list] [*]Anderson, Poul. THREE HEARTS AND THREE LIONS 1961 ; THE HIGH CRUSADE 1960; THE BROKEN SWORD 1954 [*]Bellairs, John. THE FACE IN THE FROST 1969 [*]Brackett, Leigh. (SF writer who wrote Empire Strikes Back) [*]Brown, Fredric. (SF and Mystery Writer) [*]Burroughs, Edgar Rice. "Pellucidar" Series (mostly 20's and 30's with the latest in 1969); Mars Series (1912-1942); Venus Series (1930's with the latest in 1970) ((Conspicuously absent is mention of Tarzan)) [*]Carter, Lin. "World's End" Series 1974 [*]de Camp, L. Sprague. LEST DARKNESS FALL 1939; FALLIBLE FIEND 1972; et. al. [*]de Camp & Pratt. "Harold Shea" Series (1940-1960); CARNELLIAN CUBE 1948 [*]Derleth, August. (Lovecraftian Horror) 1920's-1970's [*]Dunsany, Lord. Credited as one of the first modern fantasy authors. 1900- [*]Farmer, P. J. "The World of the Tiers" Series (1965-1993); et al. [*]Fox, Gardner. "Kothar" Series 1969 "Kyrik" Series 1975; et al. [*]Howard, R. E. "Conan" Series 1932+ [*]Lanier, Sterling. HIERO'S JOURNEY 1975 [*]Leiber, Fritz. "Fafhrd & Gray Mouser" Series; et al. 1940's-1970's [*]Lovecraft, H. P. (1919-1931) [*]Merritt, A. CREEP, SHADOW, CREEP; MOON POOL; DWELLERS IN THE MIRAGE; et al. (1917-1934) [*]Moorcock, Michael. STORMBRINGER 1965; STEALER OF SOULS 1963; "Hawkmoon" Series (esp. the first three books) (1960's) [*]Norton, Andre. (Primarily SF) 1930's to Present day [*]Offutt, Andrew J., editor SWORDS AGAINST DARKNESS III. 1978 [*]Pratt, Fletcher. BLUE STAR 1952; et al [*]Saberhagen, Fred. CHANGELING EARTH 1973; et al [*]St. Clair, Margaret. THE SHADOW PEOPLE 1969; SIGN OF THE LABRYS 1963 [*]Tolkien, J. R. R. THE HOBBIT; "Ring Trilogy" 1954 [*]Vance, Jack. THE EYES OF THE OVERWORLD 1966; THE DYING EARTH 1950; et al. [*]Weinbaum, Stanley. SF Author. Died 1934 [*]Wellman, Manly Wade. SF and Weird author from 1929-1987 [*]Williamson, Jack. SF writer from the 1930's to present [*]Zelazny, Roger. JACK OF SHADOWS 1971; "Amber" Series 1970's; et al.[/list] Phew. That's the lot. Facinating to look at this now. So many of these authors are very contemporary with the publication of OD&D and even AD&D 1e. Plus, a fair number of the authors aren't fantasy authors at all, but rather SF authors. Williamson for example is about as hard SF as they come. I must remember to link to this whenever someone complains about warforged or other SF tropes in D&D. :D [/QUOTE]
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