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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 3969898" data-attributes="member: 32164"><p>"Nay. I dinnae ken what ye mean by that laddie. Are ye by any chance trying to say that ye cannae hear a Scots accent when ye see one? An' ye do nae recognize it when ye do?"</p><p></p><p>Was it really THAT hard to hear the accent there? Yes, it's horrible and cliché, but it's certainly present. Maybe I'm just more used to it from reading dialogue in comic books. And in those "och," "dinnae ken," "nae" an' the like are traditional for "Scottish" characters, like Moira MacTaggert and Rahne Sinclair from the <em>X-Men</em> series.</p><p></p><p>It's like when the old <em>Alpha Flight</em> comics had Puck end many of his sentences with "eh." Yeah, it's very Bob and Doug Mackenzie, but it's pretty obviously supposed to sound "Canadian." Or there's the example of a Frenchmen saying something like "So, it is obvious zat you 'ave a problem with me, <em>non</em>?"</p><p></p><p>I could go on, but I think you can pretty clearly hear an accent in print, if the author <em>tries to put it there.</em> And many of those accents I quoted are about that obvious. Tolkien is usually much subtler, but the different classes of hobbits even have different speech patterns (For example, Sam's speech is more "country" than the rest.) And on that basis, whether or not dwarves are patterned on Jews or not, their speech pattern has a few of those typically scottish things I mentioned - dwarves say "Aye" and "Nay" a lot - which none of the other characters do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 3969898, member: 32164"] "Nay. I dinnae ken what ye mean by that laddie. Are ye by any chance trying to say that ye cannae hear a Scots accent when ye see one? An' ye do nae recognize it when ye do?" Was it really THAT hard to hear the accent there? Yes, it's horrible and cliché, but it's certainly present. Maybe I'm just more used to it from reading dialogue in comic books. And in those "och," "dinnae ken," "nae" an' the like are traditional for "Scottish" characters, like Moira MacTaggert and Rahne Sinclair from the [i]X-Men[/i] series. It's like when the old [i]Alpha Flight[/i] comics had Puck end many of his sentences with "eh." Yeah, it's very Bob and Doug Mackenzie, but it's pretty obviously supposed to sound "Canadian." Or there's the example of a Frenchmen saying something like "So, it is obvious zat you 'ave a problem with me, [i]non[/i]?" I could go on, but I think you can pretty clearly hear an accent in print, if the author [i]tries to put it there.[/i] And many of those accents I quoted are about that obvious. Tolkien is usually much subtler, but the different classes of hobbits even have different speech patterns (For example, Sam's speech is more "country" than the rest.) And on that basis, whether or not dwarves are patterned on Jews or not, their speech pattern has a few of those typically scottish things I mentioned - dwarves say "Aye" and "Nay" a lot - which none of the other characters do. [/QUOTE]
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