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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 4496072" data-attributes="member: 1129">Not recently but it's easily a 5 star book. The new one? Not so much.You mean outside of stuff from the core that's missing? Barbarians, half-orcs, etc...? Do you mean outside of the dozens and dozens of splatbooks made possible by the very open OGL? Do you mean spawned from that same OGL that lead to other games? Or are we going back and say comparing the Forgotten Realms campaign setting to the new one? Heck, I'll even through in both player's books. The old books had a ton of utility for both players and GMs, even though the 3.5 one was mostly an update. The new ones are cut so differently that you can't even easily find (not in the index!)where dragon born players would start in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting much less actually give player's background quickly on it.But I’m not alone here. Here’s an old thread of love to that awesome book.<a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=228229" target="_blank">[Necro][FR] JDCorley's 293 Pages Of Forgotten Realms Adventure Seeds - RPGnet Forums</a>Highly subjective. One objective measure, actual page cout and word count.  Some mix the two. For example, the complete crap that the first adventure was printed on. Subjectively, some may have enoyed it as a great adventure. Objectively? It was printed on low grade paper and smeared with little use. Could you have had as much fun if it was printed on paper that destoryed itself in one use? At what point do you go, "That's enough of corporate nonsense."?If there's more opportunity for the cream to rise to the top, isn't that better than subjectively HOPING that there's some good stuff?Well, it depends on what you think my point is.My point is that 4e has less content. That's not a subjective point either.  People can talk in circles about the missing monsters, classes, races, and new formatting but at the end of the day, it's less content for more money.</blockquote>

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