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<blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4498250" data-attributes="member: 66434">Our difference is that I too use the MM info for stuff to kill but not ONLY for stuff to kill. There are some creatures with interesting cultures and habits that are fun to roleplay as something other than sword fodder. Monsters can be challenging adversaries or useful allies in ways that are not strictly combative. &nbsp;Monsters are NPC's, and to me that role means they have goals and motivations of thier own. Sometimes that goal leads directly to combat (especially for unintelligent creatures that see the PC's as food) sometimes conflict without combat (negotiation) and at other times cooperation ( with intelligent creatures whose goals do not directly conflict with those of the PC's) &nbsp;This is type of play that 4E has left behind. Interaction with monsters has been officially declared &quot;unfun&quot; unless initiative is being rolled. The style of play that the 4E MM supports isn't wrong or bad, just a waste of paper for my preferred playing style.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ExploderWizard, post: 4498250, member: 66434"] Our difference is that I too use the MM info for stuff to kill but not ONLY for stuff to kill. There are some creatures with interesting cultures and habits that are fun to roleplay as something other than sword fodder. Monsters can be challenging adversaries or useful allies in ways that are not strictly combative. Monsters are NPC's, and to me that role means they have goals and motivations of thier own. Sometimes that goal leads directly to combat (especially for unintelligent creatures that see the PC's as food) sometimes conflict without combat (negotiation) and at other times cooperation ( with intelligent creatures whose goals do not directly conflict with those of the PC's) This is type of play that 4E has left behind. Interaction with monsters has been officially declared "unfun" unless initiative is being rolled. The style of play that the 4E MM supports isn't wrong or bad, just a waste of paper for my preferred playing style. [/QUOTE]

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