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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 4089322" data-attributes="member: 54877">Hero System has long had this problem when doing Fantasy Games (or any other genre where you want people to get beat up over time).  Since it is cheap to buy a healing spell that a person can use as much as they want, anyone not killed in a fight is quickly back to fully healthy.  There are various ways of getting around this on the edge conditions, but ultimately if you want to truly limit the healing of "Body", you do exactly what 4E does--limit the amount of healing per day that a person can get, not try to limit the healing effects.Once you get why this works, the answer is easy:  If you want something in 4E closer to the effect that 3E has, then let creatures recover their full complement of healing surges each day, but do not let them get any healing outside a surge--or at least sharply limit other healing.  That is, extend what 4E already apparently does during a day to cover weeks, months, etc.For example, Thud the Barbarian is extremely whacked on Day 1. He has used all of his 8 healing surges for the day, and currently has 5 hit points. He rests through the night. He gets back his 8 healing surges and, say, 1 hit point per level for resting.  So he his still down many hit points.  Upon waking, Thud immediately uses enough healing surges to get to 100% hit points--say, three of them.  Great. If his Day 2 is uneventful, the non-physical, not serious damage he took on Day 1 is erased.  If his Day 2 is moderately rough, he skates along much as he his--tired but still very effective.  If his Day 2 is as rough as Day 1 (needing 8 healing surges to get through it), then Thud is going to die, barring some smart play on his part.It need not be that dramatic, either.  If every morning on an adventure, a character has to use one more of his healing surges to get back to 100% hit points, and this continues for days and days (1 on first day, 2 on second day, etc.), then eventually he gets too beat up and runs out.  That is a mere deficit of needing one more healing surge each day than the character has--without a break, it will eventually prove fata.</blockquote>

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