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4e Healing - Is This Right?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 4100355" data-attributes="member: 5122"><p>I appreciate it. I've discovered the hard way that on EN World it's almost always the retaliation that gets whistled, not the provocation, so I've made a studied attempt to ignore that provocation. That might be rare on EN World, but it's damned near miraculous when in comes to me in particular, so I have to admit I'm glad someone noticed.</p><p></p><p>I think you're exactly correct.</p><p></p><p>The transition from "weeks" (1E and 2E) to "days" (3E and 3.5) gave me little twinges, admittedly. The transition from "days" to "hours" nauseates me. It's absolutely a matter of degree, you're right; as I've said, 3.5's healing is in no wise realistic ... but what it is is a toss of the bone to Ol' Verisimilitude. 4E has taken the poor old mutt behind the shed and shot him.</p><p></p><p>So yes, I was trying to point out that the difference between "days" and "hours" to heal is much, much greater than the difference between "hours" and "minutes," and I was trying to get people to recognize and admit that "minutes" would shatter their suspension of disbelief. Not many folks elected to go there, but I have to admit I'm genuinely surprised by the few who have said, "Perfectly healed in five minutes wouldn't bother me."</p><p></p><p>You shouldn't. A 20th level character in 3.5 can easily have 200 HP. If that character is stabilized at -9 HP, it will take him 11 days to recover fully without the aid of magical healing; six days if he's tended full-time by someone with the requisite Heal skill modifier. It's not exactly realistic, but Ol' Veril is wagging his tail at the effort.</p><p></p><p>True, but does it matter that "only once per day" you can go from "1 HP from Death-with-a-capital-D" to "Dandy-with-a-stolen-capital-D"? Not so much to me. Once per day is once too often.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully this'll larn ya not to take the word of EN World posters with an agenda. "Trust, but verify." I very much encourage you to check the SRD for the accuracy of my math, above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Wilder, post: 4100355, member: 5122"] I appreciate it. I've discovered the hard way that on EN World it's almost always the retaliation that gets whistled, not the provocation, so I've made a studied attempt to ignore that provocation. That might be rare on EN World, but it's damned near miraculous when in comes to me in particular, so I have to admit I'm glad someone noticed. I think you're exactly correct. The transition from "weeks" (1E and 2E) to "days" (3E and 3.5) gave me little twinges, admittedly. The transition from "days" to "hours" nauseates me. It's absolutely a matter of degree, you're right; as I've said, 3.5's healing is in no wise realistic ... but what it is is a toss of the bone to Ol' Verisimilitude. 4E has taken the poor old mutt behind the shed and shot him. So yes, I was trying to point out that the difference between "days" and "hours" to heal is much, much greater than the difference between "hours" and "minutes," and I was trying to get people to recognize and admit that "minutes" would shatter their suspension of disbelief. Not many folks elected to go there, but I have to admit I'm genuinely surprised by the few who have said, "Perfectly healed in five minutes wouldn't bother me." You shouldn't. A 20th level character in 3.5 can easily have 200 HP. If that character is stabilized at -9 HP, it will take him 11 days to recover fully without the aid of magical healing; six days if he's tended full-time by someone with the requisite Heal skill modifier. It's not exactly realistic, but Ol' Veril is wagging his tail at the effort. True, but does it matter that "only once per day" you can go from "1 HP from Death-with-a-capital-D" to "Dandy-with-a-stolen-capital-D"? Not so much to me. Once per day is once too often. Hopefully this'll larn ya not to take the word of EN World posters with an agenda. "Trust, but verify." I very much encourage you to check the SRD for the accuracy of my math, above. [/QUOTE]
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