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4e Healing - Is This Right?
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<blockquote data-quote="Propheous_D" data-source="post: 4100825" data-attributes="member: 58952"><p>I can't believe this argument is still going on..... Sometimes I really question the views of people that play this game then I remember the world I live and work in. If I have to tell someone how to spell their name so they can log into windows I guess this arguement is not that suprising.</p><p></p><p>Injury is a broad term which is not being defined here.</p><p></p><p>Does HP = Injury?</p><p></p><p>Yes it does in the most abstract way possible. The fact that seem not to grasp is that HP does not and will never reflect a serious injury. It also NEVER EVER IN THE ENTIRE SPAN OF DND done that. Just because something takes longer to recover from doesn't mean that physical injury was involved.</p><p></p><p>Serious Injury in DnD?</p><p></p><p>Sharpness weapons come to mind. </p><p>Whithering spells come to mind. </p><p>Ability damage in 3E and 3.5</p><p>Blindness/Deafness</p><p>Poison and Disease</p><p></p><p>None of the above have anything to do with Hit points beyond the fact that it may require a successful attack and damage to inflict. This may give you the impression that injury was achieved but a scratch does not a full blown injury make, and in an abstract system were the DM decides what kind of injury you have received through narative there is no definates.</p><p></p><p>I see nothing in this entire rant/debate that would convince me there is any reason to return to the incredibly broken and frankly boring way healing was handled in all previous editions. IT has all ways been the LARGEST complaint leveled at the system and the one we put the most effort into trying to correct through magical items or forced class choices. </p><p></p><p>PS> The argument of "Well my group played with out a healer and we were fine" doesn't cut it. Your GM was aware you had no healer and there is a 99% chance he tailored the adventure around that. When you take a level appropriate healerless party through Return to Temple of Elemental Evil and live come talk to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Propheous_D, post: 4100825, member: 58952"] I can't believe this argument is still going on..... Sometimes I really question the views of people that play this game then I remember the world I live and work in. If I have to tell someone how to spell their name so they can log into windows I guess this arguement is not that suprising. Injury is a broad term which is not being defined here. Does HP = Injury? Yes it does in the most abstract way possible. The fact that seem not to grasp is that HP does not and will never reflect a serious injury. It also NEVER EVER IN THE ENTIRE SPAN OF DND done that. Just because something takes longer to recover from doesn't mean that physical injury was involved. Serious Injury in DnD? Sharpness weapons come to mind. Whithering spells come to mind. Ability damage in 3E and 3.5 Blindness/Deafness Poison and Disease None of the above have anything to do with Hit points beyond the fact that it may require a successful attack and damage to inflict. This may give you the impression that injury was achieved but a scratch does not a full blown injury make, and in an abstract system were the DM decides what kind of injury you have received through narative there is no definates. I see nothing in this entire rant/debate that would convince me there is any reason to return to the incredibly broken and frankly boring way healing was handled in all previous editions. IT has all ways been the LARGEST complaint leveled at the system and the one we put the most effort into trying to correct through magical items or forced class choices. PS> The argument of "Well my group played with out a healer and we were fine" doesn't cut it. Your GM was aware you had no healer and there is a 99% chance he tailored the adventure around that. When you take a level appropriate healerless party through Return to Temple of Elemental Evil and live come talk to me. [/QUOTE]
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