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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 8036778" data-attributes="member: 907">Yes and no. Even utility powers were mainly focused on combat (or at least tactical situations), with a few exceptions – the main thing about them was that they weren't attacks. They'd do things like mobility, defense, or healing.But the out-of-combat stuff was there, it just wasn't directly linked to classes. That's what things like skill challenges and rituals were for. That's where things like magic mouth, water walk, knock, or passwall lived. This had a number of effects:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">These effects weren't gated behind classes. You didn't need to bring a cleric to deal with diseases, all you needed was a ritual caster with the right ritual. You could even use ritual magic with an otherwise non-magical class by taking the feat.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">They did not compete with combat powers for your daily resources. In 3e and 5e, the cost of casting passwall is that that's one less cone of cold you're casting that day. In 4e, the cost is 1,000 gp and 10 minutes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">They were less certain. Most rituals required some sort of skill check to cast.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">They took time to cast. This meant that while you could use rituals to bypass some obstacles, you wouldn't be able to do it in a hurry. You need that door open now, you need someone with Thievery. You got ten minutes, you can cast knock (but it'll cost you 35 gp and a healing surge).</li> </ul>As to whether that's good or bad, that's a matter of taste. I kind of like it myself, and I wish they had done more with rituals in 5e.</blockquote>

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