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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4545088" data-attributes="member: 18280">Um.....No, though I could see why you would think (if I thought as you think I do) that it is ludicrous.  We are told that arrows hit Smaug, but that they are ineffective.....this is very much in keeping with hit point loss in 1e, and the scene could easily play out in a 1e game as described in the book.  OTOH, the Arrow of Dragon Slaying was designed after the Black Arrow that actually killed Smaug, so if you prefer 1e has you covered that way as well.The fell beast.......We are not certain that it died.  We are not certain whether or not it had any visible injuries.  We are not certain of anything in this particular case.  For all we are told, the beast failed a morale check.The Witch King of Angmar?  Again, he may have had no visible injuries, but he had no visible either.  In D&D, undead do not heal with the passage of time, and he's potentially wounded when the flood destroys the black horses, as well as at other times.  His is currently in the midst of combat.  He has recently striven at the Gates of Gondor....and while Gandalf does him no damage, we cannot be certain what his status is at this time.  He is struck with a weapon devised with a special purpose of fighting the men of Angmar (the barrow blade), which might have properties that do more damage than one would otherwise expect.  Certainly Tolkein describes it as a significant blow.  Finally, while no man can harm the Witch King, non-men are clearly his prophesied bane.I would have no difficulty whatsoever rendering any of these scenes in 1e D&D terms.  Again, without any inconsistency.  RC</blockquote>

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