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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctormandible" data-source="post: 4162524" data-attributes="member: 63822">I agree that they are similar.  However, 2 of the players had never rolled a d20 in their lives - never role played, ever.  Two others had about 4 weeks experience at 3.5.  (The other has played for like eleven years)  The experienced players were outnumbered two-to-one and we were still up and playing pretty seemlessly within 5 minutes of sitting at the table.  Halfway through the first encounter the people who had never played before were eagerly (and confidently) stating their character's actions.  It seems like even in a low-level 3.5 game most new players, in my experience, take multiple sessions to be comfortable enough with the system to confidently take a turn in combat.Also, while I agree that running after a challenge is perfectly acceptable in Half-ling culture, it's somewhat absurd in, say, Heironeous dogma.  Maybe I picture Heironeous as too Old-Testament, but I can't imagine Him taking the following action:  "By the grace of all that is good and right, I challenge thee fiend!"  ::Runs like hell.::  -  And by extension, I can't imagine Him (Heironeous) condoning such a cowardly act.</blockquote>