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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3774429" data-attributes="member: 30001">So is whining about whining about it.&nbsp; I actually agree with your gaming style and I still found this post to be hostile and strange.&nbsp; &quot;Death&quot; doesn't necessarily happen in an RPG.&nbsp; I played an RPG where we started off dead.This is how I am when I play kids in basketball.&nbsp; Life is just going to dunk on them sometimes and they might as well get used to it.Not much point of you or me playing the game because we agree on what makes an interesting game.&nbsp; But there are plenty of folks that don't think death makes for an interesting RPG.&nbsp; I don't want to play such a game, I don't want 4E DnD to treat such a game as the default assumption, and I think that people should be honest and open that this is how they run their games.&nbsp; Beyond that, why care so much about how other people are playing DnD?&nbsp; People are definitely having fun with the style of DnD that doesn't kill PCs.The first thing you'd notice about a world without wimps is what would happen when you told someone complaining they were whining.&nbsp; Rudeness is also indicative of a world of wimps, as Robert E. Howard (through the mouth of Conan) once said, civilized people are accustomed to being rude because they won't have their heads split with an axe as a general rule.&nbsp; If anything, the internet makes this worse.&nbsp; Politeness counts.I agree with you insofar as I fail to see the point in playing a game where a large part of the purpose is to survive an adventure if there is no possiblity of my character dying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 3774429, member: 30001"] So is whining about whining about it. I actually agree with your gaming style and I still found this post to be hostile and strange. "Death" doesn't necessarily happen in an RPG. I played an RPG where we started off dead. This is how I am when I play kids in basketball. Life is just going to dunk on them sometimes and they might as well get used to it. Not much point of you or me playing the game because we agree on what makes an interesting game. But there are plenty of folks that don't think death makes for an interesting RPG. I don't want to play such a game, I don't want 4E DnD to treat such a game as the default assumption, and I think that people should be honest and open that this is how they run their games. Beyond that, why care so much about how other people are playing DnD? People are definitely having fun with the style of DnD that doesn't kill PCs. The first thing you'd notice about a world without wimps is what would happen when you told someone complaining they were whining. Rudeness is also indicative of a world of wimps, as Robert E. Howard (through the mouth of Conan) once said, civilized people are accustomed to being rude because they won't have their heads split with an axe as a general rule. If anything, the internet makes this worse. Politeness counts. I agree with you insofar as I fail to see the point in playing a game where a large part of the purpose is to survive an adventure if there is no possiblity of my character dying. [/QUOTE]

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