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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 2248896" data-attributes="member: 14159">Maybe, just maybe, they don't have a fixed date yet.&nbsp; No secret file sitting in Charles Ryan's desk saying &quot;4e Players Handbook: September 2009&quot; or something like that.&nbsp; They know they'll make it one day, and the historic model says roughly a decade between editions, and Mr. Ryan has said point blank on the WotC site on the thread linked from earlier in this thread when asked this question (I can only imagine how often he's asked this by worried fans) that they're going to give at least one (possibly two) years advance notice.&nbsp; I'd make the educated guess that they're probably pencilling in somewhere around 2009 personally, but I'd be content with 3.5 pretty much forever, and that's part of the question.When 3e came out, there was a real need for it.&nbsp; 2e was outdated in a lot of ways and it showed it's age.&nbsp; Every game I ever played of it under multiple DM's was house-ruled to the point it was practically a new edition already, and many players had left D&amp;D for other games.&nbsp; 2e books weren't selling particulaly well because they were of poor quality, built on an outdated framework, and selling to a half-dozen separate product lines.&nbsp; If D&amp;D was to prosper, it really needed a new edition starting almost entirely from scratch.&nbsp; When a large numbers of players get burned out on 3.5 and start going to other games by other companies because they think it's better, or start heavily modifying their D&amp;D games to play like they want because the 3.5 core doesn't work for many of them any more, and 3rd Edition shows it's age possibly one day, then it the time for 4e will truly come.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 2248896, member: 14159"] Maybe, just maybe, they don't have a fixed date yet. No secret file sitting in Charles Ryan's desk saying "4e Players Handbook: September 2009" or something like that. They know they'll make it one day, and the historic model says roughly a decade between editions, and Mr. Ryan has said point blank on the WotC site on the thread linked from earlier in this thread when asked this question (I can only imagine how often he's asked this by worried fans) that they're going to give at least one (possibly two) years advance notice. I'd make the educated guess that they're probably pencilling in somewhere around 2009 personally, but I'd be content with 3.5 pretty much forever, and that's part of the question. When 3e came out, there was a real need for it. 2e was outdated in a lot of ways and it showed it's age. Every game I ever played of it under multiple DM's was house-ruled to the point it was practically a new edition already, and many players had left D&D for other games. 2e books weren't selling particulaly well because they were of poor quality, built on an outdated framework, and selling to a half-dozen separate product lines. If D&D was to prosper, it really needed a new edition starting almost entirely from scratch. When a large numbers of players get burned out on 3.5 and start going to other games by other companies because they think it's better, or start heavily modifying their D&D games to play like they want because the 3.5 core doesn't work for many of them any more, and 3rd Edition shows it's age possibly one day, then it the time for 4e will truly come. [/QUOTE]

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