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4E in Car-speak: "No Sale"
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<blockquote data-quote="neceros" data-source="post: 4121509" data-attributes="member: 56983"><p>Firstly, let me preface this with a good ole: Your opinion is your opinion, and so is mine.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Taking your car analogy a bit further, from my perspective, let's correct a few differences in how I see it. Mind you this is not to persuade you or anyone to play 4e or not, I just want to be fair in presentation.</p><p></p><p>3.5 is like having a car that runs. It used to be a first model car, but eventually new cars get old. When you got the car the AC did it's job, but it made the car smell funny. No one disliked it, because you were cool while outside was hot! Also, A couple of your gears would grind while trying to shift. Last year's cars, also, would fume the air with poisonous smog and pollution. In the end, everyone drove the car because they had nothing better. It was the best it could be.</p><p></p><p>Now, someone releases a conference saying they've redefined the combustion engine. It will now produce 85% less smog and pollutants! Also, the car isn't cooled my resource wasting AC anymore, they've actually mastered atomic control of the atmosphere. Lastly, the car goes three times as fast, is safer, comes lined with gadgets to make your life easier, and lastly doesn't even need to be fueled anymore -- It runs on bio fuel which boosts the economy, farms and, as stated below, saves our planet.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, that's a stretch. I'm trying to show you the difference in analogy. It wouldn't be just a new car model: it would be an entirely different type of car.</p><p></p><p>4E is literally making gaming better, in almost every way mechanically. It's easier to understand so saves time on new players, saves time on adjudicating difficult decisions, easier to remember how your character can react to the world, and much more.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, sorry if I seem rude. It's not my intention. I just want to ensure the apology is just.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Take care.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="neceros, post: 4121509, member: 56983"] Firstly, let me preface this with a good ole: Your opinion is your opinion, and so is mine. Taking your car analogy a bit further, from my perspective, let's correct a few differences in how I see it. Mind you this is not to persuade you or anyone to play 4e or not, I just want to be fair in presentation. 3.5 is like having a car that runs. It used to be a first model car, but eventually new cars get old. When you got the car the AC did it's job, but it made the car smell funny. No one disliked it, because you were cool while outside was hot! Also, A couple of your gears would grind while trying to shift. Last year's cars, also, would fume the air with poisonous smog and pollution. In the end, everyone drove the car because they had nothing better. It was the best it could be. Now, someone releases a conference saying they've redefined the combustion engine. It will now produce 85% less smog and pollutants! Also, the car isn't cooled my resource wasting AC anymore, they've actually mastered atomic control of the atmosphere. Lastly, the car goes three times as fast, is safer, comes lined with gadgets to make your life easier, and lastly doesn't even need to be fueled anymore -- It runs on bio fuel which boosts the economy, farms and, as stated below, saves our planet. Now, that's a stretch. I'm trying to show you the difference in analogy. It wouldn't be just a new car model: it would be an entirely different type of car. 4E is literally making gaming better, in almost every way mechanically. It's easier to understand so saves time on new players, saves time on adjudicating difficult decisions, easier to remember how your character can react to the world, and much more. Anyhow, sorry if I seem rude. It's not my intention. I just want to ensure the apology is just. Take care. [/QUOTE]
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