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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4387695" data-attributes="member: 35909">So this is basically a weaker Knockback with fewer prerequisites?&nbsp; What's that part about knocking the foe down?&nbsp; Is it part of the feat, or is it referencing using some other means of knocking a foe down on a bull rush, like Rampaging Bull Rush or the Domino Rush maneuver of the Shock Trooper feat?Note you can already do this, just not with such low prerequisites.&nbsp; Which is fine, as the other options are better.&nbsp; In ToB alone, you've got Evasive Reflexes (take a 5 ft step instead of AoO, could be used to pursue, requires Combat Reflexes to use extensively) and the level 5 Setting Sun counter, Mirrored Pursuit, which works for any movement away from you.&nbsp; There's another Setting Sun counter specifically to 5 ft step into a vacated space, can't recall the name...As far as your balancing method, I'm not sure how effective it is.&nbsp; The feat seems designed for a Fighter battling a Mage.&nbsp; Which creates two problems.&nbsp; First, the AC penalty is so ridiculously worth it to stay on a caster it isn't even worth thinking about.&nbsp; Second, it'd be fine around level 6, but before that, the casters are actually pretty weak and have trouble casting defensively.&nbsp; Conversely, melee people tend to do quite well.&nbsp; I don't know if it's a good idea to make this feat available, as-is, from first character level.Also, I'm genuinely curious.&nbsp; Are there actual published feats that require an 11 in a stat?&nbsp; Usually, it's 13+ or they don't even bother listing one, IME.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4387695, member: 35909"] So this is basically a weaker Knockback with fewer prerequisites? What's that part about knocking the foe down? Is it part of the feat, or is it referencing using some other means of knocking a foe down on a bull rush, like Rampaging Bull Rush or the Domino Rush maneuver of the Shock Trooper feat? Note you can already do this, just not with such low prerequisites. Which is fine, as the other options are better. In ToB alone, you've got Evasive Reflexes (take a 5 ft step instead of AoO, could be used to pursue, requires Combat Reflexes to use extensively) and the level 5 Setting Sun counter, Mirrored Pursuit, which works for any movement away from you. There's another Setting Sun counter specifically to 5 ft step into a vacated space, can't recall the name... As far as your balancing method, I'm not sure how effective it is. The feat seems designed for a Fighter battling a Mage. Which creates two problems. First, the AC penalty is so ridiculously worth it to stay on a caster it isn't even worth thinking about. Second, it'd be fine around level 6, but before that, the casters are actually pretty weak and have trouble casting defensively. Conversely, melee people tend to do quite well. I don't know if it's a good idea to make this feat available, as-is, from first character level. Also, I'm genuinely curious. Are there actual published feats that require an 11 in a stat? Usually, it's 13+ or they don't even bother listing one, IME. [/QUOTE]

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