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<blockquote data-quote="Jan van Leyden" data-source="post: 4575625" data-attributes="member: 20307"><p>Other</p><p></p><p>I had been a FLGS customer out of conviction, but several years ago the trend became too obvious: The 'F' was being dropped, and the selection in the shop(s) becam so meager that they served as mail order stations anyway.</p><p></p><p>So when I found Dragonworld.de, I started to shift my busness over to them, until I ordered everything from them. NB: Dragonworld's prices are in most cases mutch better than those at Amazon.de.</p><p></p><p>At about the time of the release of 4e, a new shop opened in my home town and - lo and behold! - asking prices comparable or even lower than Dragonworld.</p><p></p><p>In fact this means that I'll buy my stuff from the either from a reliable internet source or my LGS (whether I grant this shop a 'F' remains to be seen), wherever I get the best offer.</p><p></p><p>The LGS only has a chance because it means just a 2 minutes detour on my way from work. I can't imagine driving by car to a game store, my time being too valuable for that.</p><p></p><p>Oh, yes, I nearly forgot; one thing I did buy from Amazon.de: Goodman Games' first 4e adventure was neither available in the store (or with their distributors) nor from Dragonworld.</p><p></p><p>I fail to see the advantages a brick&mortar shop offers to me. The reliability leaves something to be desired, the selection of merchandise isn't good enough to initiate impulse buys, and the famous 'added value' is nowhere to be seen.</p><p></p><p>Spending hours in a shop and talking to some RPG-kiddies (myself being 47 years old) isn't an attractive way to spend my time. One shop offered a demo game which enticed me to attend. It was some 10 years ago and I was the only interested gamer. Browsing before buying? Well, if there would be a chance that they actually have something in store I'm interested in...</p><p></p><p>Historically speaking my fable for LGS' is from the time when I was a small scale publisher myself. Back in the days ISDN was high tech and selling PDFs next to impossible. You had to print the books and absolutely needed all those game stores to sell them to. So it was in my best interest to support game shops, to help them prosper.</p><p></p><p>Sadly a lot of those shops were rather disfunctional, their owners expecting the publisher to do all the work promoteing the game. My understanding of 'division of work' was remarkably different from theirs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jan van Leyden, post: 4575625, member: 20307"] Other I had been a FLGS customer out of conviction, but several years ago the trend became too obvious: The 'F' was being dropped, and the selection in the shop(s) becam so meager that they served as mail order stations anyway. So when I found Dragonworld.de, I started to shift my busness over to them, until I ordered everything from them. NB: Dragonworld's prices are in most cases mutch better than those at Amazon.de. At about the time of the release of 4e, a new shop opened in my home town and - lo and behold! - asking prices comparable or even lower than Dragonworld. In fact this means that I'll buy my stuff from the either from a reliable internet source or my LGS (whether I grant this shop a 'F' remains to be seen), wherever I get the best offer. The LGS only has a chance because it means just a 2 minutes detour on my way from work. I can't imagine driving by car to a game store, my time being too valuable for that. Oh, yes, I nearly forgot; one thing I did buy from Amazon.de: Goodman Games' first 4e adventure was neither available in the store (or with their distributors) nor from Dragonworld. I fail to see the advantages a brick&mortar shop offers to me. The reliability leaves something to be desired, the selection of merchandise isn't good enough to initiate impulse buys, and the famous 'added value' is nowhere to be seen. Spending hours in a shop and talking to some RPG-kiddies (myself being 47 years old) isn't an attractive way to spend my time. One shop offered a demo game which enticed me to attend. It was some 10 years ago and I was the only interested gamer. Browsing before buying? Well, if there would be a chance that they actually have something in store I'm interested in... Historically speaking my fable for LGS' is from the time when I was a small scale publisher myself. Back in the days ISDN was high tech and selling PDFs next to impossible. You had to print the books and absolutely needed all those game stores to sell them to. So it was in my best interest to support game shops, to help them prosper. Sadly a lot of those shops were rather disfunctional, their owners expecting the publisher to do all the work promoteing the game. My understanding of 'division of work' was remarkably different from theirs. [/QUOTE]
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